North Korea fires missile which lands in sea off Japan

[jem]

not only is that a picayune comment because you know they were pretty much destroyed in IRAQ by our military as bush was leaving office... you are wrong technically too...

they were not ISIS until 2013. so obama's and hillary's policies did birth them.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/middleeast/here-is-how-isis-began/index.html

It took territory, and a new name: ISIS
After ISI's forces gained strength in Syria, it re-entered Iraq in 2013 "as a reinvigorated force ... seizing much of Anbar a year later," CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen wrote earlier this year.
That year, Baghdadi announced the group would be known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). He also said he was merging his force with the al Qaeda-affiliated group Al-Nusra Front -- which didn't exactly agree.

Isis was birthed in 1999 and started fighting as part of the insurgency against Bushes invasion in 2003.The first time they called themselves the Islamic State was in 2006 before Obama and Hillary were in office.

 

[jem]

but still this is beside the point.
How could be possibly acting like Trump is at fault for North Korea.

They got this missile capability under Obama's watch. Now its will be up to Trump to do something about it... before they nuke us here on the west coast.

The people of S. Korea are probably going to get bombed because Obama was irresponsible. Not trump.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

The people of S. Korea are probably going to get bombed because Obama was irresponsible. Not trump.

Indeed there is no way that South Korea will escape major devastation if anything escalates.

Astute viewers may have taken note of that little dance that recently took place in South Korea. Obama. The South Koreans elected a talky-talky type in - I think it was May. He is the son of north koreans and wants to return to another few decades of negotiating with the North. Meanwhile he cancelled the ongoing placement of American THAAD defensive missiles in South Korea because he wanted to stick his thumb in the Americans eye and demonstrate that he was not an American/Trump puppet and he wanted to have a shot at being kumbaya with the North Cretans.

Surprise!!! Right as we speak the THAAD missiles are being placed in South Korea. I guess the good news is that it only took the new guy a few weeks to smarten up and call for help. Those missiles that the North Cretans put up got his attention too I guess. The other not-so-subtle thing is that the THAAD missile system was one of things that Trump negotiated over with the Chinese at Maro Largo. Trump caved in a little because he had no choice but to go along with the South Korean wishes- because they are land missiles and have to be placed on their soil. And China was promising to be helpful so it was worth giving them a chance to show that/not show that- especially since we had no choice.

Oh how things have changed in the last few weeks though. China has not been helpful but now they have THAAD missiles within range of taking down their missiles. Not what they wanted. But the more they play games by helping the North Cretans, the more South Korea starts getting hawkish and asking for more American presence.

No lie when you say that the South Koreans will get bombed. The north has a massive, massive number or short range missiles pointed at Seoul. Far behind anything we can stop with or without THAAD or anti-icbm missile. Seoul is only 35 miles away so it really a mix of short range missiles and long range offensive artillery.

South Korea needs to rethink their giving the finger to the Americans and they apparently have done that. So that is good because the shiite is either going to hit the fan or come close enough to keep them up at night for months on end.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-artillery_us_58f631a4e4b0b9e9848eb990

 

[Tony Stark]

they were not ISIS until 2013. so obama's and hillary's policies did birth them.

They became ISIS in Iraq in 2006,they became Isis in Iraq and Syria in 2013.From your article


That year, Baghdadi announced the group would be known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).








http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/isis-fast-facts/index.html


October 2006 - AQI leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri announces the creation of Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), and establishes Abu Omar al-Baghdadi as its leader.





https://www.britannica.com/topic/Islamic-State-in-Iraq-and-the-Levant

AQI was responsible for some of the most spectacular and brutal attacks of that conflict. Shortly after Zarqawi’s death in 2006, the group combined with several smaller extremist groups and renamed itself the Islamic State of Iraq





http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29052144

After Zarqawi's death in 2006, AQI created an umbrella organisation, Islamic State in Iraq (ISI)





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq

In January 2006, Tanzim and five other Iraqi insurgent groups formed the Mujahideen Shura Council, which on 15 October 2006 merged to form Islamic State of Iraq.[8]

 

[Tony Stark]

The people of S. Korea are probably going to get bombed because Obama was irresponsible. Not trump.

N Korea had nukes and the ability to use them against S Korea before Obama came into office

 

[jem]

Obama's irresponsible policies did give rise to the ISIS we think about...

I was also right about ISIS' birth.

I did not say IS or ISI, I said ISIS

and ISIS was born in 2013 as can be seen in the CNN link I gave you.

I will give it to you again..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/middleeast/here-is-how-isis-began/index.html

It took territory, and a new name: ISIS
After ISI's forces gained strength in Syria, it re-entered Iraq in 2013 "as a reinvigorated force ... seizing much of Anbar a year later," CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen wrote earlier this year.
That year, Baghdadi announced the group would be known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). He also said he was merging his force with the al Qaeda-affiliated group Al-Nusra Front -- which didn't exactly agree.

that does not change the fact that barry and hillary birthed ISIS.
and it certainly doesn't support your idea that the US is worse than North Korea.

you created a faulty comparison an its very telling about your side.

 

[jem]

anything to excuse Obama and democrats. He had 8 years to prevent them from getting the ability to hit us.

He failed... and its a major failure that could lead to a serious catastrophe... because now that they can hit the US.... Obama has left the world with very few options.

So instead of blaming trump and posting crap about Trump as if this was Trumps problem... you should shut up.

This should have been solved by Obama instead he was leading from behind. again.

I am not doing this to defend Trump as much as it very annoying seeing your gross attempts to act like this was not Obama's fault.

N Korea had nukes and the ability to use them against S Korea before Obama came into office

 

[Tony Stark]

Obama's irresponsible policies did give rise to the ISIS we think about...

I was also right about ISIS' birth.

I did not say IS or ISI, I said ISIS

and ISIS was born in 2013 as can be seen in the CNN link I gave you.

I will give it to you again..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/middleeast/here-is-how-isis-began/index.html

It took territory, and a new name: ISIS
After ISI's forces gained strength in Syria, it re-entered Iraq in 2013 "as a reinvigorated force ... seizing much of Anbar a year later," CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen wrote earlier this year.
That year, Baghdadi announced the group would be known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). He also said he was merging his force with the al Qaeda-affiliated group Al-Nusra Front -- which didn't exactly agree.

The already formed and fighting Islamic State going into Syria isn't a birth.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

N Korea had nukes and the ability to use them against S Korea before Obama came into office

But they did not have a delivery system that could reach Japan or the United States which is what would would precipitate a war where south korea would become collateral damage.

Try to follow the discussion. Or rather, refrain from obvious lame attempts to walk sideways like a crab away from the point at hand.

When Obama advised incoming Trump what the biggest threat was to the United States, he said it was North Korea- he could have added "especially because I have not done anything about it."

 

[Tony Stark]

anything to excuse Obama and democrats. He had 8 years to prevent them from getting the ability to hit us.

He failed... and its a major failure that could lead to a serious catastrophe... because now that they can hit the US.... Obama has left the world with very few options.

So instead of blaming trump and posting crap about Trump as if this was Trumps problem... you should shut up.

This should have been solved by Obama instead he was leading from behind. again.

I am not doing this to defend Trump as much as it very annoying seeing your gross attempts to act like this was not Obama's fault.

North Korea never fired a missile that could hit The US under Obama.Only after Trump came into office threatening them did they build a missile capable of hitting The US.Right now experts doubt NK are capable of mounting a nuke on a missile and it being able to hit The US.That too will happen under Trump.