Nope, he wasn't born in Hawaii

Did Obama need every vote and every state to be elected president?

Nope, so your point is flat out wrong...

I don't even know if Obama will run in 2012, who knows?

If the economy sucks, it will be hard for Obama to be re-elected...

However, Clinton won precisely because of Ross Perot in 1992...

The same could happen now. I don't see any republican on the market that will galvanize the entire republican electorate...

So a third party ultra right wing ball sucking gagger favors an Obama re-election...big time.



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And if they do not?

Point is, Obama needs every vote he can get. Every.
 
why is it so hard to require that every presidential candidate release their birth certificate, and for it to be properly certified by the hospital/state BEFORE they are even allowed to be listed on state ballots or win their party's nomination? They do this for tax records...

I don't care Dem or GOP. After this, the first thing I would do (especially if foreign parents in any way) is to release this to the public so it did not come up later.
 
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why is it so hard to require that every presidential candidate release their birth certificate, and for it to be properly certified by the hospital/state BEFORE they are even allowed to be listed on state ballots or win their party's nomination? They do this for tax records...

I don't care Dem or GOP. After this, the first thing I would do (especially if foreign parents in any way) is to release this to the public so it did not come up later.

He has released a State certified birth certificate that the State of Hawaii and the Republican Governor has verified
 
You then are practicing the religion of the klannish...faith that Obama is not a citizen.

Faith that the governor of Hawaii is lying.

Faith that the documents produced are fake...

Yada, yada, yada...

I know, Ronald Reagan died for your sins....

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Believe in his Citizenship is belief taken on Faith alone without any evidence.

Sounds like the Libs have a new Religion.
 
Sounds like almost all religion.


Quote from jficquette:

Believe in his Citizenship is belief taken on Faith alone without any evidence.

Sounds like the Libs have a new Religion.
 
The silliness...

Say that bat shit crazy woman, Oily Tartz suddenly came out and said she saw the necessary documentation to satisfy her that Obama is legitimately our president (which he is anyway)...

Would the afterbirthers listen to the queen mother the way Catholics listen to the Pope and agree that Obama is a US citizen?
 
wow you are a hard core spin meister aren't you.

It will be Obama bringing a Federal suit to get on a state ballot.

That is far different from the case you cited where the plaintiff's case was denied for procedural reasons.

By the way the stuff you cited by fact check . garbage... was shown to be garbage.

Obama has never said he has produced his real evidence. Just a bunch of crap has been floated and discredited.

I have no real evidence of whether he was born here or not... an neither do you.

I will be my ET handle and a 100,000 cash on that one. (that is a real amount I can produce... so I am totally serious.)



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Keep Dreaming

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/08/obama-birth-certificate-c_n_149229.html


Obama Birth Certificate Challenge Turned Down By Supreme Court



WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.

Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth _ his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject _ he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.

Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.

At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and Hawaii officials have confirmed.

Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits.

Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.

But Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.

In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama's birth, including his parents' address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.
 
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He has released a State certified birth certificate that the State of Hawaii and the Republican Governor has verified

Obama has done no such thing.

1. Show us once where Obama says this is my proof.

2. show us where the certificate produced stands for the fact the person was born in Hawaii. (not one which can be applied for after the fact.)
 
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