Nobel Peace Prize for Trump. Kim Jong Un in SOUTH Korea.

I am confused what you are asking. Does only Trump and Obama exist in your universe? The standards for Nobel prices are generally exceptionally high, you are not seriously claiming that Trumps achievements come close to the likes of Gandhi (he was not awarded one but I named him as example of one who deserves one) ? Just because Obama did not deserve the price when it was awarded to him does not lower the bar for everyone else. I think you actually perfectly reflect the problem of Americans: there is the political arch enemy and then there is "us". Same for both political camps. Americans completely fail to see the rising empire that has already initiated America's decline. You are so busy fighting each other that any eager enemy can meanwhile sneak through the back door. Not that smart. Not all that smart. You are destroying each other and just don't see it.

DTB2 said:
Then why did you start with the higher standards shtick?
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NoodleStrudle said:
I am confused what you are asking. Does only Trump and Obama exist in your universe? The standards for Nobel prices are generally exceptionally high, you are not seriously claiming that Trumps achievements come close to the likes of Gandhi (he was not awarded one but I named him as example of one who deserves one) ? Just because Obama did not deserve the price when it was awarded to him does not lower the bar for everyone else. I think you actually perfectly reflect the problem of Americans: there is the political arch enemy and then there is "us". Same for both political camps. Americans completely fail to see the rising empire that has already initiated America's decline. You are so busy fighting each other that any eager enemy can meanwhile sneak through the back door. Not that smart. Not all that smart. You are destroying each other and just don't see it.
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Umm, no.

You brought up the high standards of the Nobel Committee and I pointed out their standards were not high as they awarded a prize to Obama. (low standards)

So, you are wrong and now you're getting pissy and wish to lecture me about America. Fuck off.

If you're really a Strudel, geh mit Gott aber geh nur.
 
vanzandt said:
I wonder what kind of stories they'll have to tell regarding their imprisonment. We're they sworn to silence maybe as a condition of their release? That would be hard to do.
I guess we'll find out if they were tortured etc. Its really pretty surprising Kim let em go (assuming) they have horror stories to tell about the conditions there.
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Could go the other way though. He might of started to fatten them up a bit before releasing them so that he did not have Otto 2.0 on his hands as he was getting ready to grovel for food...disguised as having fully developed nukes so he is flexible now. Would not be a good time to have Otto type optics right at this time. Even Chubby knows that. He watches more American TV than I do.

Although I must say though, the fact that one of the guys wanted to get off the plane in Anchorage because he had not seen daylight for a long time indicates they had it rough.
 
You are still missing my point. One mistake does not make everything bad. The capitalist market system and model for most advanced societies is sound and well despite a few financial crises. Which part of this is hard to comprehend? I get it you hate Obama. It's your prerogative. But I am not Obama nor a fan boy of him. One does not have to love or hate, I take a critical stance on issues not people. So, ease up and relax, just because the Nobel Price committee made a mistake here or there does not discount the merits that are necessary to earn this award in general. You are basically arguing that because there was Hitler or Stalin any subsequent dictator of lesser evil poses high enough standards for us to be acceptable. Strange stance if you ask me.

Perhaps dial down your anger and you might actually be in a position to add value rather than just barking around like a disturbed dog.

DTB2 said:
Umm, no.

You brought up the high standards of the Nobel Committee and I pointed out their standards were not high as they awarded a prize to Obama. (low standards)

So, you are wrong and now you're getting pissy and wish to lecture me about America. Fuck off.

If you're really a Strudel, geh mit Gott aber geh nur.
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CaptainObvious said:
Washington, Lincoln...Trump. This peace plan comes to fruition, future historians will be referring to Trump as one of the top few presidents. Love him, or hate him, he is doing things that many predecessors failed to do.
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jem said:
So for 8 years of Obama China supports North Korea increasing its nuclear capacity.
Trump starts talking about tariffs and trade wars. China puts North Korea on a leash and lefties don't think Trump doing foreign policy differently deserves a significant amount of credit.

This is an example of why the left fails all and over throughout history.

They are so concerned about doctrine they can not allow themselves to acknowledge what works. North Korea agreeing to talk is a massive change. ... Yet Trump (who I will vote against in the primaries) gets no credit from the left?

Over the weekend I heard lefties coming up with some of the most bizarre explanations. It was sad.
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Vertex said:
Moon says Trump should get the peace prize.

“President Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize. What we need is only peace,” Moon told a meeting of senior secretaries, according to a presidential Blue House official who briefed media.
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:D:D:D
 
bone said:
Let me guess - you also laughed at the twin towers falling down on September 11, 2001.
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You guess as good as you teach.

Lets not go down the ad hom route, you want people to not mock the charade by comparing the farce to actual tragedy.
 
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