Noahs Ark found. (Good Video Evidence)

Quote from peilthetraveler:

1. Guess that big boat in Holland is a figment of my imagination (and to millions of others too then.) http://www.rnrk.com/story17.html

2. People have found fossils of marine life high on mountains. I PERSONALLY once found a fossil of coral that was 2800 feet above see level.

3. Every time you find fossils they are generally always very close to each other in in a pit like area. When they found our supposed ancestor "Ida" they found a crushed monkey hand and a smashed turtle shell in the same pit.

4. Unless of course a large comet (which is made of ice) melted as it entered our atmosphere, exploded and rain from the comet poured down for 40 days.

5. Ernst Walter Mayr the 20th century LEADING evolutionary biologist(thats right...he's YOUR boy) said there are about 1 million species on the earth. (uh-oh....I might be in trouble here) Oh but then again, most of those species already live in the water. Heres a nice little site for you. (dont worry, you can trust it because the site believes in evolution *snicker*) http://www.earthlife.net/mammals/welcome.html As you will see taxonomists estimate there are 4260 mammals on earth as of this moment (since some of those mammals are water dwelling and some mammals have gone extinct in the last 5000 years and taxonomists think their may be more species of animals, lets just say there was 5000 land animals on the ark. Double it (because 2 of everyone and you have 10k animals. Plenty of room on the ark for up to 50k animals like i said in another post, but lets move on to your next issue.

6. People like you believe Mars that has almost no water was once covered in it, but you cant believe that the Earth that is 70% water was once 100% covered? Also did it ever occur to you that maybe with the weight of all that water on the earth that canyons in the oceans may have collapsed (like sinkholes) which is why the water receded.

7. Ah...I have to give you some credit for the dendrochronology I really had a tough time finding a way to dispute the tree rings. Everytime I found something, i studied it, but found myself to be in error.(like multiple rings per year solution, periods of solar quiescence) but they all proved to be false. Fortunately the answer was in the bible. Something happened after the flood that changed everything. Men used to live 900 years and it wasnt until after the flood that God said man would live no longer than 120 years. This leads us to believe something happened with the atmosphere which of course would affect the interpretation of carbon dating and dendrochronology for any time past 4500 years ago.

As for you last comment. How hard are you going to crap your pants if they do excavate (with your atheist breathren of course) and find a huge giant ship up on that mountain. Im VERY curious as what you will say, although you will probably deny it.


You can lead an atheist to evidence,but you cant make him think.

You call this link a source?! http://www.rnrk.com/story17.html

I urge anyone to go to this website, and try to contain your laughter if at all possible! Did you create this website in 1995 in your parents' basement?
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:


7. Ah...I have to give you some credit for the dendrochronology I really had a tough time finding a way to dispute the tree rings. Everytime I found something, i studied it, but found myself to be in error.(like multiple rings per year solution, periods of solar quiescence) but they all proved to be false. Fortunately the answer was in the bible. Something happened after the flood that changed everything. Men used to live 900 years and it wasnt until after the flood that God said man would live no longer than 120 years. This leads us to believe something happened with the atmosphere which of course would affect the interpretation of carbon dating and dendrochronology for any time past 4500 years ago.

:D :D :D

Perfectly logical!

"Something" happened after the flood that changed everything.

Why did god arbitrarily decide to change man's life span from 900 years to 120 years? Silly god, always doing strange things for no reason....oh wait, I forgot. I'm not supposed to ask questions like this because I cannot possibly begin to know why god does what god does because I am only a lowly human!
 
Quote from Kassz007:

You call this link a source?! http://www.rnrk.com/story17.html

I urge anyone to go to this website, and try to contain your laughter if at all possible! Did you create this website in 1995 in your parents' basement?


When a poster uses a website designed for children to support their assertions, you are obligated to bow out of the discussion.

Arguing with a child or an adult with a child's mentality makes you look like a...

...meanie. :)
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

my god(zues) the ignorance astounds and amazes. i am only going to deal with this one right now. i am laughing so hard i am having a hard time seeing.
do you have any education at all? this boat is not floating on water. the reason large wood boats the size of the ark are impossible is because on water boats have to span swells. this causes them to flex. wood does not have the strength to span that distance. the longest wood boat we ever built was almost 100 feet shorter than the ark and it was not seaworthy because it leaked. that boat had the benefit of steel to reinforce the wood. the ark would not have had reinforcement.
The Wyoming was a wooden six-masted schooner, the largest wooden schooner ever built. She was built and completed in 1909 by the firm of Percy & Small in Bath, Maine.[1] The Wyoming was also one of the largest wooden ships ever built, the longest wooden ship ever built, 450 ft (140 m) from jibboom tip to spanker boom tip, and the last six-mast schooner built on the east coast of the US.

Because of the extreme length of the Wyoming and its wood construction, it tended to flex in heavy seas, which would cause the long planks to twist and buckle, thereby allowing sea water to intrude into the hold (see Hogging and sagging). The Wyoming had to use pumps to keep its hold relatively free of water. In March 1924, it foundered in heavy seas and sank with the loss of all hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_(schooner)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogging_and_sagging

I'm not taking a side on this issue, but your post reminds me so much of an episode of "myth busters" I watched once.

The myth buster guys tried to recreate a steam powered canon supposedly designed and built by Davinci.

When they were unable to make the cannon work as legend told, they determined the stories were not true.

Basically they decided if they could not build it then neither could Davinci.

hilarious!
 
Quote from 151:

I'm not taking a side on this issue, but your post reminds me so much of an episode of "myth busters" I watched once.

The myth buster guys tried to recreate a steam powered canon supposedly designed and built by Davinci.

When they were unable to make the cannon work as legend told, they determined the stories were not true.

Basically they decided if they could not build it then neither could Davinci.

hilarious!

They are still trying to determine exactly how the Pyramids were built to such exact details yet they exist.

I bought a toaster from Walmart a few weeks back and the thing already is messing up, my mom has one given to her as a wedding gift circa 1960's and the thing works great.

Newer and more technically advanced isn't always the best.
 
Quote from 151:

I'm not taking a side on this issue, but your post reminds me so much of an episode of "myth busters" I watched once.

The myth buster guys tried to recreate a steam powered canon supposedly designed and built by Davinci.

When they were unable to make the cannon work as legend told, they determined the stories were not true.

Basically they decided if they could not build it then neither could Davinci.

hilarious!

thats why we have this thing called science. science looks at the evidence and makes a determination.
in this case we know the limits of the technology of the time. we know the limits of the available wood of the time. we know the limits of the ability to seal the wood seams of the time and none of it is possible even with todays technology.
now if the only evidence against the bible myth was ark technology we could still consider if there was something we dont understand.
the problem is every other piece of evidence shows there was no flood to begin with. if there was no flood how much time do you spend trying to figure out how a mythical man built a mythical boat in a mythical flood.

you might be in need of some education on the flood. start here:
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p82.htm

A History of the Collapse of "Flood Geology" and a Young Earth
adapted from the book The Biblical Flood: A Case Study of the Church's Response to Extrabiblical Evidence (Eerdmans, 1995) by Davis A. Young, an evangelical Christian geologist from Calvin College
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

I'm guessing any of you that have been watching the news this morning saw this already. Skeptics are out in full force, but I have a little treat for you all that they didnt show on the news. :) Here is some footage of the team decending into the ground to get into the ark. Try not to deny the EVIDENCE. Although they have already carbon dated the wood to the time of the great flood, all they are waiting for now is Local Turkish officials to ask the central government in Ankara to apply for UNESCO World Heritage status so the site can be protected while a major archaeological dig is conducted. Then we can let you atheists come in, do your confirmation tests, and shit your pants.

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the gullible are fooled once again:

"Now, after further investigation on Mount Ararat, Randall Price, a Judaic studies expert at Liberty University, and geologist Don Patton have issued an in-depth critique on the matter, standing firm in their contention the evidence shown to international news media was actually material transported from the northeastern Turkish town of Trabzon near the Black Sea, and transplanted atop Ararat as part of a movie production about Noah's Ark."
 
free thinker - for years you were saying our universe does not looked designed.... and you argued with me when I said top scientists said it did..... your aggressive denial the possibility of a creator is beginning to look ignorant.


“When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.”

- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) Tipler, F.J. 1994. The Physics Of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, Preface.

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The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

- Albert Einstein
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Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say ‘supernatural’) plan.”

- Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) Margenau, H and R.A. Varghese, ed. 1992. Cosmos, Bios, and Theos. La Salle, IL, Open Court, p. 83.

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It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.”

“It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.”

-Anthony Flew
Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater

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There is a wide measure of agreement which, on the physical side of science approaches almost unanimity, that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail mind as the creator and governor of the realm of matter—not of course our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown, exist as thoughts.”

- Sir James Jeans knighted mathematician, physicist and astronomer who helped develop our understanding of the evolution of stars, wrote this in his book The Mysterious Universe (Cambridge, 1931).

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16O has exactly the right nuclear energy level either to prevent all the carbon from turning into oxygen or to facilitate sufficient production of 16O for life. Fred Hoyle, who discovered these coincidences in 1953, concluded that “a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology.”

- Hoyle, Fred. “The Universe: Past and Present Reflections,” in Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, 20. (1982), p.16
(for more of these coincidences click here)

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“If you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one… Faced with the enormous sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the fabric of the universe.”

- Christian de Duve. “A Guided Tour of the Living Cell” (Nobel laureate and organic chemist)

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http://www.simpletoremember.com/art...science-quotes/

and there more at that link...
 
Quote from jem:

free thinker - for years you were saying our universe does not looked designed.... and you argued with me when I said top scientists said it did..... your aggressive denial the possibility of a creator is beginning to look ignorant.


“When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.”

- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) Tipler, F.J. 1994. The Physics Of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, Preface.

--


The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

- Albert Einstein
---



Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say ‘supernatural’) plan.”

- Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) Margenau, H and R.A. Varghese, ed. 1992. Cosmos, Bios, and Theos. La Salle, IL, Open Court, p. 83.

---

It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.”

“It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.”

-Anthony Flew
Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater

---
There is a wide measure of agreement which, on the physical side of science approaches almost unanimity, that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail mind as the creator and governor of the realm of matter—not of course our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown, exist as thoughts.”

- Sir James Jeans knighted mathematician, physicist and astronomer who helped develop our understanding of the evolution of stars, wrote this in his book The Mysterious Universe (Cambridge, 1931).

--

16O has exactly the right nuclear energy level either to prevent all the carbon from turning into oxygen or to facilitate sufficient production of 16O for life. Fred Hoyle, who discovered these coincidences in 1953, concluded that “a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology.”

- Hoyle, Fred. “The Universe: Past and Present Reflections,” in Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, 20. (1982), p.16
(for more of these coincidences click here)

---

“If you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one… Faced with the enormous sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the fabric of the universe.”

- Christian de Duve. “A Guided Tour of the Living Cell” (Nobel laureate and organic chemist)

--

http://www.simpletoremember.com/art...science-quotes/

and there more at that link...

jem when every piece of evidence ever found falsifies the bible stories is there some point that people like you will give up believing that primitive myths are true? isnt it time you grow up? even the catholic church rejects intelligent design as scientific:

Vatican Event to Exclude Intelligent Design

Speakers invited to attend a Vatican-sponsored congress on the evolution debate will not include proponents of creationism and intelligent design, organizers said.

The Pontifical Council for Culture, Rome's Pontifical Gregorian University and the University of Notre Dame in Indiana are organizing an international conference in Rome March 3-7 as one of a series of events marking the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's "The Origin of Species."

Jesuit Father Marc Leclerc, a philosophy professor at the Gregorian, told Catholic News Service Sept. 16 that organizers "wanted to create a conference that was strictly scientific" and that discussed rational philosophy and theology along with the latest scientific discoveries.

He said arguments "that cannot be critically defined as being science, or philosophy or theology did not seem feasible to include in a dialogue at this level and, therefore, for this reason we did not think to invite" supporters of creationism and intelligent design.
 
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