No one is guilty in Israel

Quote from dddooo:

Nice try but it's not just an IDF inquiry:


France 2 allowed three senior French journalists to view all 27 minutes of the raw footage. The three were Daniel Leconte....

Okeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey...

No dddooo...I will not belive your IDF inquiry nor will I belive paid, forensically inexperienced journalists when I know that not even one single, nazi like, israeli soldier was ever charged in the killing of more than 800 children throughout the intifada. I Will not belive the IDF inquiry when I know that the only Israeli soldier who was seriously charged with killing civilians, never mind children, is the one who killed Tom Hurndall, a British peace activist who was escorting school children away from your snipers fun killing range.
 
Quote from dddooo:

You are stupider than I thought! It turns out that I know more about your "religion" than you do!!!
I am not religious.

Yes dddooo. You have accepted Jews and whole communities into the Jewish religion after they converted. You even invited them to israel as Jews. Go check on that before you open your mouth.
What part of the definition don't you understand? "A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism..."

dddooo...in all of these communities cases, non went through the formal conversion process but were accepted as jews and shipped to the zionist entity to be used later on as permanent border police (cheaper and not as worthy as the German Jew :)). Keep up with me buddy. I know of at least two.
 
Quote from WAEL012000:

dddooo...in all of these communities cases, non went through the formal conversion process but were accepted as jews and shipped to the zionist entity to be used later on as permanent border police (cheaper and not as worthy as the German Jew :)). Keep up with me buddy. I know of at least two.
I was merely trying to correct your clueless and ignorant statement that Jews are a religion. What do these communities (whatever they are) have to do with it?:confused:
 
Quote from dddooo:

I was merely trying to correct your clueless and ignorant statement that Jews are a religion. What do these communities (whatever they are) have to do with it?:confused:

Idiot! I was referring to your following false statement made by you,

"A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism.

I kept on trying to get through your dense brain by explaining to you that I know of two communities who did not go through the formal process but were considered Jews and even shipped to the zionist entity.

Its is so funny that you zionists are now manipulating the definition of the Jewish religion to fit your agenda.

So tell me dddooo....What is your citizenship you zionist chameleon.
 
Quote from WAEL012000:

I kept on trying to get through your dense brain by explaining to you that I know of two communities who did not go through the formal process but were considered Jews and even shipped to the zionist entity.
Who cares? I was explaining to you that jews are not a religion, I was not discussing Israel's immigration policies.
 
When has anyone in the muslim world ever admitted to any atrocity they have committed? BTW


Weekly Jihad Report
Sep. 22 - Sep. 28 Jihad Attacks: 62

Dead Bodies: 300

Critically Injured: 263



Please, save your victim speech and clean up your own house first.




Quote from WAEL012000:

Gideon Levy

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Ali Shaito implored his mother, Muntaha, to stay conscious as she lay dying from
shrapnel wounds (Ghaith Abdul-Ahad / Getty Images).

Haaretz

Nineteen inhabitants of Beit Hanun were killed with malice aforethought. There is no other way of describing the circumstances of their killing. Someone who throws burning matches into a forest can't claim he didn't mean to set it on fire, and anyone who bombards residential neighborhoods with artillery can't claim he didn't mean to kill innocent inhabitants.

Therefore it takes considerable gall and cynicism to dare to claim that the Israel Defense Forces did not intend to kill inhabitants of Beit Hanun. Even if there was a glitch in the balancing of the aiming mechanism or in a component of the radar, a mistake in the input of the data or a human error, the overwhelming, crucial, shocking fact is that the IDF bombards helpless civilians. Even shells that are supposedly aimed 200 meters from houses, into "open areas," are intended to kill, and they do kill. In this respect, nothing new happened on Wednesday morning in Gaza: The IDF has been behaving like this for months now.

But this isn't just a matter of "the IDF," "the government" or "Israel" bearing the responsibility. It must be said explicitly: The blame rests directly on people who hold official positions, flesh-and-blood human beings, and they must pay the price of their criminal responsibility for needless killing. Attorney Avigdor Klagsbald caused the death of a woman and her child without anyone imagining that he intended to hit them, but nevertheless he is sitting in prison. And what about the killers of women and children in Beit Hanun? Will they all be absolved? Will no one be tried? Will no one even be reprimanded and shunned?

GOC Southern Command Yoav Galant will say with exasperating coolness that apparently there was "a problem with the battery's targeting apparatus," without moving a facial muscle, and will that be enough? Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh will say, "The IDF is militarily responsible, but not morally responsible," and will he thus exculpate himself?

And who will bear the responsibility for the renewal of the terror attacks? Only Hamas? Who will be accused of the tumble in Israel's status and its depiction as a violent, leper state, and who will be judged for the danger that hovers over world Jewry in the wake of the IDF's acts? The electronic component that went on the blink in the radar?

No one is guilty in Israel. There is never anyone guilty in Israel. The prime minister who is responsible for the brutal policy toward the Palestinians, the defense minister who knew about and approved the bombardments, the chief of staff, the chief of command and the commander of the division who gave the orders to bombard - not one of them is guilty. They will continue with the work of killing as though nothing has happened: The sun shone, the system flourished and the ritual slaughterer slaughtered. They will continue to pursue the routine of their daily lives, accepted in society like anyone else, and remain in their posts despite the blood on their hands. A few hours after the disaster, while the Gaza Strip was still enveloped in sorrow and deep in shock, the air force was already hastening to carry out another targeted killing, an arrogant demonstration of just how much this disaster does not concern us.

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Israel after the disaster was split: There were those who did their duty and "expressed sorrow," like the prime minister and the defense minister, and there were those who hastened with appalling insensitivity to cast the responsibility onto the Palestinians, like the "moderate" foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, and the deputy defense minister from the Labor Party, Sneh. The silent majority did not bother to emerge from its yawning indifference. The entertainment shows on television continued to make people laugh, and one of the radio stations even broadcast, in a demonstrable lack of taste, Sarit Hadad's song "You're a Big Gun." Mourning, of course, did not descend on Israel, and there was not even a single manifestation of genuine participation in the sorrow. It did not occur to Israel to promise compensation to the families and it did not provide help, apart from transferring some of the wounded to hospitals in Israel. We provided more aid to the victims of the earthquake in Mexico, even though there we didn't have a hand in the disaster. For the most part, the media were not very disturbed by the killing and devoted less attention to it than to the Gay Pride parade.

A day or two after the disaster it was totally forgotten and other affairs are filling our lives. But it is impossible just to go on to the next item on the agenda. This disaster is not an act of God. There are people who are clearly responsible for it, and they must be brought to justice. The fact that the International Court of Justice in The Hague still looks very far from Israel, and the various "Halutzes" and "Galants" can still move around freely in the world, because in Israel they forgive nearly everything, does not mean that war crimes are not being committed here.
No one is guilty in Israel

The IDF may well be a big gun, but an army that is responsible for needless killing in such large dimensions, as in recent months in Lebanon and in Gaza, is a failed and dangerous army that must urgently be repaired. The Defense Forces are not only killing Arabs for no reason, they are also directly endangering Israel's security, disgracing it in the world and embroiling it again and again.

The heedless and arrogant reaction to such deeds contains a dangerous moral message. If it is possible to dismiss mass killing with a wealth of technical excuses, and not take any drastic measure against those who are truly guilty of it, then Israel is saying that, as far as it is concerned, nothing happened apart from the faulty component in the radar system or the glitch in balancing the sights. But what happened at Beit Hanun, what happened in Israel on the day after and what is continuing to happen in Gaza day after day is a far more frightening distortion than the calibrating of a gun sight.
 
Quote from WAEL012000:

As I told you before, you are the only fascist colonizing entity that succeeded into turning the victim into a victimizer and the victimizer into a victim is you. And for that I take my hat off for you!!!

You are right.

No one in Israel is guilty.

I would add this caveat:

None of the Palestinians are guilty.

There are no victims in the entire world, ever.

Things are not always as they appear to be.

All events are scripted and all of the parties involved opt in, before any bodily appearances.

The appearance of the body is for the purpose of making attack appear possible.

I said the body is for attack, to give it and to receive it.

That is the purpose of the body in it's original inception.

Bodies are materialized by one mind. One mind, many bodies.

This mind is attempting to maintain attack against itself through the use of bodies.

It does this because it feels guilty.

Attack is it's insane way of dealing with guilt as it attempts to pin it on someone, something else.

To pin it on something else, it compartmentalizes bits of mind and assigns each a body.

Blame is passed around furiously.

Because it is one mind, compartmentalization is an illusion.

Attack cannot proceed without agreement by all parties concerned.

All scenarios are scripted.

The players take turns attacking each other.

Attack is accepted as retaliation for guilt.

The mind thinks it can expiate it's guilt by accepting attack, and to preempt an even worse fate it fears.

Attack is given to accommodate those who ask.

The mind that does this is an artificial alter ego in the mind of the Son of God.

It's lurid scripts are all played out in imagination.

These are images.

Therefore, despite appearances, the world is the picture of the self-crucifixion of the Son of God.

Thus, the world is a mental problem.

Nevertheless, it's scenarios are appropriations of the law of love.

Why?

Because love is Spirit giving to Spirit as asked.

All "attacks" are asked for. And so they are given.

On the battleground, truth is the first casualty of war.

The truth is, there is nothing but love.

The Son of God is unlimited, and free.

He is free to experience anything he wants.

All you are looking at is the freedom of expression.

None of these expressions are real.

There is no such thing as death.

And the Son of God is not guilty.

So no one in Israel is guilty.

Guilt is a fabrication of mind in order to have an experience.

Taken seriously, it is a mesmerizing quagmire.

See no one as guilty, and you will release yourself from it's hypnotic spell.

Every body is a mask on the face of the Son of God.

Bodies are masks.

Don't be fooled by what a mask appears to do.

The masks are all different, but the wearers are all the same.

Jesus
 
Quote from sputdr:

When has anyone in the muslim world ever admitted to any atrocity they have committed? BTW


Weekly Jihad Report
Sep. 22 - Sep. 28 Jihad Attacks: 62

Dead Bodies: 300

Critically Injured: 263



Please, save your victim speech and clean up your own house first.

You see? when I accuse you of being the stupidest man I have ever encountered....I really mean it!!!

1- Let me guess, did your list from the zionist website include any new car accidents caused by a driver who happened to be a Muslim this time???

2- Who is talking about Muslims you stupid stupid, stupid man! I am posting an article about a state that commits atrocities. Where did you come up with the Muslim thing you stupid man???

3- If you wanted to attack Muslims, do me a favor and find a post that relates to the issue of Islam and dump the two pieces of information that were thrown to you in it.

I know I know that you are trying to present yourself as someone who knows a thing or two about wold affairs. But eery time you open your mouth you make me feel sad for you. You see sput, in the past I used to laugh at your stupidity (Not a figure of speech) but now, belive it or not, I really am saddened!

Take care Kido...
 
Quote from dddooo:

Who cares? I was explaining to you that jews are not a religion, I was not discussing Israel's immigration policies.

Who cares??? Israel accepted them as Jews dddooo??? What is wrong with you???
 
Quote from WAEL012000:

Who cares??? Israel accepted them as Jews dddooo??? What is wrong with you???
I got it wael, Israel accepted them, (whoever they are), you don't need to repeat it in every post, I got it. That Israel accepted "them" does not refute the fact that Jews are not a religion, if your mother is a Jew you're still a Jew even if you're an atheist, Christian, muslim or Buddhist. You once again demonstrated your stupidity and ignorance when you claimed that Jews were a religion.
 
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