The best thing to do if you are trading is to ignore all news unless it is news of a neutron bomb gone off in the small world ride at Disney World , or Trump has admitted he is an asshole. In the first case, stocks will go down briefly; in the second case, up briefly. The people who write the market reports have to have a reason why stocks go up on a particular day and why they go down. They can't bring themselves to say, "stocks went down and we don't know why." Therefore they make something up everyday. The real reason the go up is because they have gone down; the real reason they go down is because they have gone up.
No Muller indictment against Trump anew, what does it mean for tomorrow's market
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I made more last year working in the private sector than the net present value of my entire military retirement as an O-5. And that's assuming I live for 50 more years. You may have a limited understanding of how shitty and dangerous 20 year "retirement" jobs are, how limited the pensions are, or are a failure in the private sector? Perhaps all 3, because with my actual experience in both sectors you're way off base.
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you have been working with the wrong agency. here are some sample for nys:
https://www.seethroughny.net/payrolls/city-of-new-york
salary:
Name Employer/Agency Total Pay Subagency/Type
Patel, Bhavesh N Environment Protection, Department of $539,098 Environment Protection, Department Of
Laudando, Christopher Environment Protection, Department of $516,312 Environment Protection, Department Of
Bui, Huu Environment Protection, Department of $507,810 Environment Protection, Department Of
Giovanniello, Frank J Environment Protection, Department of $494,301 Environment Protection, Department Of
Anderson, Courtnay D Environment Protection, Department of $492,040 Environment Protection, Department Of
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Name Last Employer Pension Benefit Pension System
McManus, Edgar J The City University of New York $561,754 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Bussel, Anne New York City Department of Education $535,386 NYC Teachers Retirement System
O'Brien, Mary E New York City Department of Education $436,712 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Lele, Shashikant B Roswell Park Cancer Institute $436,356 NYS Employees Retirement System
Brennan, Madeleine D New York City Department of Education $429,180 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Jiji, Latif M The City University of New York $411,634 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Rosen, James D New York City Department of Education $374,986 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Filer, Malva E The City University of New York $371,589 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Pellicer, James O The City University of New York $367,748 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Bibula, Marshall New York City Department of Education $344,454 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Willner, Sheila P New York City Department of Education $327,374 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Feltman, James A Commack Union Free Schools $326,826 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Karnilow, Sheldon Half Hollow Hills Central Schools $323,262 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Scott, Paul E Nassau Health Care Corp $321,065 NYS Employees Retirement System
Hankin, Carole Syosset Central Schools $320,368 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Hunderfund, James H Commack Union Free Schools $317,901 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Vecchi, Michael A NYC Fire Department $316,253 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Barrett, Leonard O Nassau Health Care Corp $312,375 NYS Employees Retirement System
Lee, John J The City University of New York $303,684 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Benach, Jorge L SUNY at Stony Brook $296,312 NYS Employees Retirement System
Filomena, Patricia A New York City Department of Education $295,935 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Shea, Thomas C South Huntington Union Free Schools $293,682 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Brande, Richard T Brookhaven-Comsewogue Union Free Schools $292,325 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Saffer, Shelley Brookhaven-Comsewogue Union Free Schools $289,881 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Winnick, Wilma A The City University of New York $288,797 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Brown, Herb R Oceanside Union Free Schools $285,632 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Rothstein, Stuart A New York City Department of Education $285,489 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Epstein, Howard G New York City Department of Education $284,797 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Zanderer, Leo The City University of New York $283,836 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Albers, Ilse T New York City Department of Education $281,228 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Vidal, Maureen E New York City Department of Education $276,468 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Costello, Eileen V New York City Department of Education $275,703 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Cook, Janet R New York City Department of Education $273,281 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Calderone, John A NYC Fire Department $272,530 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Taylor, Eileen B New York City Department of Education $271,899 NYC Teachers Retirement System
March, Sandra L New York City Department of Education $269,426 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Friedman, Ronald L Great Neck Public Schools $268,284 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Cohen, Paul New York City Department of Education $266,069 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Dirienzo, John E NYC Fire Department $265,932 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Warren, Frank A The City University of New York $265,385 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Jensen, Thomas M NYC Fire Department $263,709 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Hechter, Rochelle M New York City Department of Education $262,927 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Philip, George M NYS Teachers Retirement System $262,225 NYS Employees Retirement System
Nadal, Milga The City University of New York $259,879 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Santana-Fox, Elsie M Nassau Health Care Corp $258,525 NYS Employees Retirement System
Hart, Hiram E The City University of New York $258,516 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Narasimhan, Narasimhan L SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn $258,490 NYS Employees Retirement System
Strong, Robert J NYC Fire Department $258,418 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Seelig, William C NYC Fire Department $257,113 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Sulc, Charles V Massapequa Public Schools $254,852 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Briordy, James M NYC Fire Department $252,952 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Byrnes, Robert G NYC Fire Department $252,333 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mulrenan, James F NYC Fire Department $251,903 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Dunne, Thomas M NYC Fire Department $251,482 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Pachter, Milton H Port Authority Of NY & Nj $251,270 NYS Employees Retirement System
Galvin, Thomas R NYC Fire Department $251,089 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Burnstein, Feiga H New York City Department of Education $250,279 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Tracy, Patrick D NYC Fire Department $249,853 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Galante, Thomas W Queens Borough Public Library $248,102 NYS Employees Retirement System
Kilduff, Edward S NYC Fire Department $247,979 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Kelly, John J NYC Fire Department $247,162 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Turner, Robert R NYC Fire Department $246,373 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Pinsent, Mark E NYC Fire Department $246,282 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Lisnitzer, Ivan M SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn $245,713 NYS Employees Retirement System
Hannan, Edward L SUNY at Albany (28010) $244,676 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Murphy, Patrick J NYC Fire Department $244,565 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Reynolds, Patrick NYC Fire Department $244,331 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Cruthers, Frank P NYC Fire Department $243,142 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Strakosch, Robert F NYC Fire Department $243,068 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Smith, David J NYC Fire Department $243,056 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mustich, Peter J Rye Neck Union Free Schools $242,686 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Donoghue, Daniel F NYC Fire Department $242,540 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Licopoli, Lorenzo Mineola Union Free Schools $241,533 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Boyce, Robert J, Jr NYC Fire Department $241,220 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Montuori, Madeleine New York City Department of Education $240,935 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Falotico, Michael J NYC Fire Department $240,709 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Blaine, Kevin S NYC Fire Department $239,587 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Tobin, Richard S NYC Fire Department $239,209 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Kosson, Harlan Wayne County $238,450 NYS Employees Retirement System
Earl, James L NYC Fire Department $238,382 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Campbell, James E NYC Fire Department $238,042 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Cuccurullo, Michael A NYC Fire Department $237,562 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Fernen, Mark J NYC Fire Department $236,951 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Taddiken, Nancy L Edgemont at Greenburgh Central Schools $236,612 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Occhiogrosso, Francis J NYC Fire Department $236,125 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Riley, Thomas S NYC Fire Department $235,558 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Campo, Leon J East Meadow Union Free Schools $234,397 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Okeefe, Robert W NYC Fire Department $234,358 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mcvey, Michael J NYC Fire Department $233,661 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Blanco, Aaron P Port Authority Of NY & Nj $233,641 NYS Employees Retirement System
Richman, John A Roslyn Public Schools $232,257 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Clarke, Charles C NYC Fire Department $232,211 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Melia, Daniel F NYC Fire Department $230,951 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Brosnan, William J, Jr Northport-East Northport Union Free Schools $230,578 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Sekler, Sherry New York City Department of Education $229,883 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Chilson, William J NYC Fire Department $229,762 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Ternlund, Stephen F NYC Fire Department $229,294 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Brower, Peter F Town Of Ramapo $229,266 NYS Police and Fire Retirement System
Duffy, Kevin C NYC Fire Department $228,959 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Bonasera, Anthony J Mount Sinai Union Free Schools $228,957 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Shapiro, Elaine P New York City Department of Education $228,683 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Horan, Austin L NYC Fire Department $228,370 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Papa, John P NYC Fire Department $227,854 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Kearon, Edward T NYC Fire Department $227,742 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Smith, Brian C NYC Fire Department $227,412 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Melucci, Ranier W Merrick Union Free Schools $227,154 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Manahan, James J NYC Fire Department $226,884 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Daly, James D, Jr NYC Fire Department $226,390 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Maynes, Robert R NYC Fire Department $226,331 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Smith, Paul E NYC Fire Department $225,765 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mullee, John V New York City Department of Education $225,646 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Feirsen, Robert D Garden City Union Free Schools,SUNY at Stony Brook (28050) $225,175 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Koziak, Gerard Z NYC Fire Department $223,966 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Chaplin, Marilyn T New York City Department of Education $223,871 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Stolzenberg, Edward A Westchester Health Care Corp $223,799 NYS Employees Retirement System
Meierdiercks, Warren A Sewanhaka Central Schools $223,737 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Sullivan-Kriss, Patricia A Hauppauge Union Free Schools $223,491 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Butler, Kevin M NYC Fire Department $223,490 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Halpern, Harvey The City University of New York $223,315 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Simms, Jeffrey G NYC Fire Department $222,717 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Cardillo, Charles S Manhasset Union Free Schools $222,688 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Mccarthy, William J NYC Fire Department $222,057 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Spellman, Robert M NYC Fire Department $221,539 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Migliore, Ciro NYC Fire Department $220,553 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Kananowicz, Eugene G NYC Fire Department $220,342 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Oehm, William NYC Fire Department $220,154 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gallagher, William J NYC Fire Department $220,147 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Quinn, Gerard M NYC Fire Department $220,085 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Kotula, Richard W NYC Fire Department $219,831 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Greenberg, Robert Long Beach City School District $219,727 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Rail, John M NYC Fire Department $219,369 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Leonard, Gerard P NYC Fire Department $219,351 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mazzaro, Domenica F New York City Department of Education $219,113 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Fried, Robert The City University of New York $218,744 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Curran, Brian NYC Fire Department $218,624 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gallagher, Michael P NYC Fire Department $218,580 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Farina, Carmen New York City Department of Education $218,303 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Murphy, Thomas NYC Fire Department $218,206 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Narbutt, John J NYC Fire Department $218,113 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Scherma, Douglas J NYC Fire Department $218,108 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Martinetion, Daniel T NYC Fire Department $218,098 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Moog, William P NYC Fire Department $218,079 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Cassano, Salvatore J NYC Fire Department $217,647 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Odonnell, Kevin E NYC Fire Department $217,518 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Ambrosini, George J NYC Fire Department $217,490 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mccool, Denis G NYC Fire Department $217,351 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mc Donald, William J Floral Park-Bellerose Union Free Schools $217,098 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Labarbera, John V NYC Fire Department $216,912 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Sullivan, John M NYC Fire Department $216,814 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gandiello, Joseph R NYC Fire Department $216,596 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Mceneaney, John M NYC Fire Department $216,560 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Barnes, Nora B New York City Department of Education $216,526 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Hirt, Richard I Locust Valley Central Schools $216,480 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Horne, Frances J New York City Department of Education $216,156 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Tronolone, Peter G NYC Fire Department $216,092 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
O'Reilly, Michael NYC Fire Department $216,062 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Odonnell, Steven P NYC Fire Department $215,919 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Chin Louis, Judith J New York City Department of Education $215,491 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Goldstein, George A Sewanhaka Central Schools $215,365 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Rinaldi, Rocco A NYC Fire Department $215,274 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Sirois, Herman A Levittown Union Free Schools $215,016 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Schelling, Wesley L NYC Fire Department $215,000 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gorenberg, Hyman The City University of New York $214,765 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Ritchie, Francis L NYC Fire Department $214,655 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Rice, Eugene R NYC Fire Department $214,575 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Riordan, Timothy J NYC Fire Department $214,518 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Infantino, Rosemary New York City Department of Education $214,333 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Wendling, James R NYC Fire Department $214,219 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Brandes, Barry W NYC Fire Department $213,993 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Evangelista, Joseph R NYC Fire Department $213,682 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Portello, Richard O NYC Fire Department $213,626 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Glassman, Phyllis Ossining Union Free Schools $213,485 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Shostack, Eileen New York City Department of Education $213,319 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Lee, Michael J NYC Fire Department $213,097 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Jacobs, Harold C NYC Fire Department $212,985 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Stanford, Dennis J NYC Fire Department $212,875 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Godino, Charles F The City University of New York $212,759 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Mahlstadt, Eugene J NYC Fire Department $212,719 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Cash, Gerard J NYC Fire Department $212,498 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Stember, Sheila New York City Department of Education $212,487 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Auriemma, Frank V Pearl River Union Free Schools $212,442 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Orlandi, Anthony NYC Fire Department $212,393 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Everett, Michael J NYC Fire Department $212,293 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Carrig, Thomas A NYC Fire Department $212,229 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gale, Thomas R NYC Fire Department $212,208 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
O'Malley, Michael P NYC Fire Department $211,608 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Nathan, Richard B Lindenhurst Public Schools $211,585 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Dobrin, Allan H CUNY $211,054 NYC Board of Education Retirement System
Magel, John R The City University of New York $210,873 NYC Teachers Retirement System
Moorhead, Robert J NYC Fire Department $210,809 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Scanlon, Kevin J NYC Fire Department $210,563 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gordon, Dennis NYC Fire Department $210,538 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Gleason, John A NYC Fire Department $210,305 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Viglietta, Joseph F NYC Fire Department $210,269 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Hawkins, Glenn M NYC Fire Department $210,216 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Harten, James P NYC Fire Department $210,111 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Streitman, Jeffrey B Syosset Central Schools $210,045 NYS Teachers Retirement System
Shea, John NYC Fire Department $209,281 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Somin, Paul S NYC Fire Department $208,973 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
Bradley, Thomas NYC Fire Department $208,855 NYC Fire Department Pension Fund
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If you want to talk about something entirely different like the current pay of people who can't retire in 20 years, then feel free to start another thread about that.
I was responding directly to your incorrect and facile statement about pensions for those in jobs that allow retirement after 20 years. Happy to continue to talk about that, obviously you aren't.
First off just a hint on basic interpersonal skills. If you're trying to convince a person who has first hand experience in an area where you have none, telling them "your counter argument is based on your own life experience with no fact" is vanishingly unlikely to convince them. Pointing out that their experience is anecdotal, sure, completely legit and reasonable. Telling them that what they've personally experienced is "no fact" is just being an asshole who is stunningly unaware of what they don't know they don't know, and a singularly ineffective asshole at that.
What I do see you provided is a handful of pensions of senior leaders of large organizations that pale in comparison to the total lifetime comp of similar senior leaders of large organizations in the private sector. And a bunch of $200K level pensions for guys who live in NYC, which if you're not aware is one of the most expensive places in the world, all of whom did dangerous jobs for pay significantly below the private sector pay in NYC for many years. Plus a handful of folks that abused the "last year work tons of overtime" system, which I believe has since been shut down. If this looks like ridiculous lifetime comp to you compared to the private sector, then as you would say "you've been working for the wrong private sector employer in NYC".
And if you want sheer numbers and your precious "data", the single largest public sector 20 year retirement job that you specifically referenced is the military by far. There's several million retired military folks earning 50% of this pay scale right now https://www.militaryrates.com/military-pay-charts-e1_e5_2019. Let me know how ridiculous that E-7 retirement of $29,000 a year looks for the guy or gal who put their life on the line for you for 20 years. Oh, and if you shattered your fibula on that last jump you did so you're really limited in your jobs once you get out, you do get disability pay. Of course it's subtracted dollar for dollar from your retirement so you don't get any more actual money, but hey, the disability piece is tax free so that makes your $29,000 go a lot further right!
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