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William Rennick · May 16, 2012

Quote from TGregg:

? Confident, eh? See excerpts below from your OP.

But Rennick isn't talkin' 'bout plain vanilla self confidence. He's referring to swagger. Swagger that says to women that you expect and are used to getting the best and hottest babes out there. Swagger where when you ask a woman for her phone number and get anything other than 7 digits, you smile, thank her and walk away without missing a beat, without looking back, without any bad feelings at all, where all you are thinking is "Who's next?". Oh sure, you can have self confidence and the ability to talk to strangers. But what wows the women is when you have total and utter confidence in your ability to score.

Among other things.

This below might be self confidence but is surely not swagger:

Finally, Hedvig posted a good link to review. Some of his stuff is a bit off IMO, but there are much worse places to start:

From the same site:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

Masterpiece

masterm1ne · May 16, 2012

Mike, TY for input. 1,2,4 are easily accomplished with practice. I have tried a lot to change # 3 in the past, and can try more.... Not all that attracted to women bigger than myself though. Still sucks to be one of the smaller guys drinking though. I went out last night with a friend and I was thinking about this...

I tried a while ago to gain weight and I am going to try to start again. Just sat down and did the calculations. I am pretty much going to need to shop for food every day

However, there are a couple counterpoints. Frequently, I observe something similar to the following excerpt (Robert Greene, The Art of Seduction):

A few years after D'Annunzio began work as a society reporter, he married the daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Gallese. Shortly thereafter, with the unshakeable support of society ladies, he began publishing novels and books of poetry. The number of his conquests was remarkable, and also the qualityânot only marchionesses would fall at his feet, but great artists, such as the actress Eleanor Duse, who helped him become a respected dramatist and literary celebrity. The dancer Isadora Duncan, another who eventually fell under his spell, explained his magic: "Perhaps the most remarkable lover of our time is Gabriele D'Annunzio. And this notwithstanding that he is small, bald, and, except when his face lights up with enthusiasm, ugly But when he speaks to a woman he likes, his face is transfigured, so that he suddenly becomes Apollo. . . . His effect on women is remarkable. The lady he is talking to suddenly feels that her very soul and being are lifted."

I think if u have swagger, it doesn't really matter how you look, at least for a male.

BSAM, I really want to visit houston and austin. There seems to be potential there... Don't know that it would make any difference though.. I feel if I can't get a woman here, moving wouldn't really change anything.

ChkitOut · May 16, 2012

Here man, let me help a brother out. Just watch some videos and become a player!

http://www.rsdnation.com/

Mike805 · May 16, 2012

Quote from masterm1ne:

Mike, TY for input. 1,2,4 are easily accomplished with practice. I have tried a lot to change # 3 in the past, and can try more.... Not all that attracted to women bigger than myself though. Still sucks to be one of the smaller guys drinking though. I went out last night with a friend and I was thinking about this...

I tried a while ago to gain weight and I am going to try to start again. Just sat down and did the calculations. I am pretty much going to need to shop for food every day

However, there are a couple counterpoints. Frequently, I observe something similar to the following excerpt (Robert Greene, The Art of Seduction):

I think if u have swagger, it doesn't really matter how you look, at least for a male.

BSAM, I really want to visit houston and austin. There seems to be potential there... Don't know that it would make any difference though.. I feel if I can't get a woman here, moving wouldn't really change anything.

The swagger stuff is all about confidence. Which is true. Just be careful you don't lose yourself in the process.

Contrary to what some "players" will say, sincerity and honesty go a long way. You're going to attract the type of woman who is a reflection of you. If you lie and game em', you're going to be lied to and gamed. If you're honest and sincere, that's who you'll be with.

A lot of guys I know who have terrible marriages or are divorced never objectively looked at who they were dating and why. All the signs of a rough road were there, these guys just never wanted to acknowledge it. Its difficult, but self-assessment is huge, your relationships with women will be a reflection of you, the good and bad parts.

Lucrum · May 16, 2012

Quote from Mike805:

...sincerity and honesty go a long way....

Two thumbs up.

masterm1ne · May 16, 2012

I watched a series a while ago called 'The Pickup Artist.' Basically this guy aliased as Mystery trained these geeks how to seduce/attract etc. It seemed to work pretty well. A lot of the tactics he taught have been echoed here.

On the date test for men:

Code:

3.  What is your BMI?

(Go here to calculate your BMI.  I know BMI doesnât account for very muscular physiques, but since most men are not Lee Haney, it is adequate for this surveyâs purposes.)

under 20.0:  -1 point
20.0 to 24.0:  +1 point
24.1 to 27.0:  0 points
over 27.0:  -1 point

I got +1 as I scored 20.1 lol....

Still scored in the beta range. Of course this test has it's flaws.... I'm pretty sure if I can get my swagger down pat I'd be much better off.

ChkitOut · May 16, 2012

Quote from masterm1ne:

I'm pretty sure if I can get my swagger down pat I'd be much better off.

maybe you were just born in the wrong millenia and your style is better suited for a different era.

nursebee · May 17, 2012

Get back on the porch if you can't hang with the big dogs.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Imagine having this conversation with people you will see for the rest of your life. When life gets better you will have to continue seeing them and be reminded of what a whining little be atch you were.

All of your focus is on negative energy. Keep up the focus and continue receiving the rewards for such.

masterm1ne · May 17, 2012

Quote from nursebee:

Get back on the porch if you can't hang with the big dogs.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Imagine having this conversation with people you will see for the rest of your life. When life gets better you will have to continue seeing them and be reminded of what a whining little be atch you were.

All of your focus is on negative energy. Keep up the focus and continue receiving the rewards for such.

You think I'm embarassed? Lol... I'm sure most men have similar problems, they don't know how to talk to women.

I talk about my female relations with people I work with all the time.... when life changes, I'll tell them that too!

You think I care what people think about me because of my female problems?... And talk about negative energy... you hypocrite

Lucrum · May 17, 2012

Quote from masterm1ne:

You think I'm embarassed? Lol... I'm sure most men have similar problems, they don't know how to talk to women.

I talk about my female relations with people I work with all the time.... when life changes, I'll tell them that too!

You think I care what people think about me because of my female problems?... And talk about negative energy... you hypocrite

Two male nurses getting into it?

Cat fight?