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lemme guess

jeb9999 lives in his mothers basement trading sub penny stocks from his Muriel Seibert account. 100 shares at a time


close?
 
Quote from TraderZones:

Yes, he pales in your shadow. Umm by the way, who are you again???

Can you get your font a little bigger? You must be half blind or can't even afford glasses. Which one is it? And stop kissing Don's butt, would you? And by the way, who are you again?
 
Quote from stock777:

2 million Es a day

lets say 5000 contracts


Thats only 400 traders. Worldwide. and it leaves nothing for you pikers, who do at least 4999 a day.

According to you there are hundreds doing 10,000 a day in ES like it was nothing


lol, math impaired.

show proof of your fantasy or stfu

I see your point of view. I made a mistake in stating "High frequency trading is thousands of trades per hour. It should have been "High frequency trading systems are capable of thousands of trades per hour." My fault for being too focused on bottom up and not top down. The maximum frequency at which trading takes place and the sustained rate of trading are two different things.

A high frequency automated trading system is capable of executing multiple trades in under 100 milliseconds, but may only find profitable opportunities a few times per hour. Thus 5 to 10 trades can take place in a second or a few seconds, but only 50 to 100 over the course of an hour. So if you have such a high frequency automated trading system doing 20 lots you end up with a volume ranging from 20 x 50 x 6.5 hours to 20 x 100 x 6.5 hours or a range of 6,500 to 13,000 lots a day.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Really? Since you say "thousands of trades per hour," let us be conservative and jusr say it's 2,000 trades per hour (the minumum plural for "thousands"). And although RTH alone lasts longer, let's just say 6 hours per day. That means at the very least 12,000 trades per day for a single entity. Presumably, such a player is going to be trading well more than a mere, say, 10 mini contracts at a clip. That means that such a player will be trading a sizeable multiple of 120,000 contracts per day. How many such traders do you reckon trade the ES?

No, not really.

I made a mistake in stating "High frequency trading is thousands of trades per hour. It should have been "High frequency trading systems are capable of thousands of trades per hour." My fault for being too focused on bottom up and not top down. The maximum frequency at which trading takes place and the sustained rate of trading are two different things.

A high frequency automated trading system is capable of executing multiple trades in under 100 milliseconds, but may only find profitable opportunities a few times per hour. Thus 5 to 10 trades can take place in a second or a few seconds, but only 50 to 100 over the course of an hour. So if you have such a high frequency automated trading system doing 20 lots you end up with a volume ranging from 20 x 50 x 6.5 hours to 20 x 100 x 6.5 hours or a range of 6,500 to 13,000 lots a day.
 
Quote from stock777:

lemme guess

jeb9999 lives in his mothers basement trading sub penny stocks from his Muriel Seibert account. 100 shares at a time


close?

Sorry, but my dear mother passed away years ago.

I have never traded penny stocks.

IB is my broker.

High frequency capable bots are the future of electronic trading.
 
Quote from options4me:

Would hope I would.. Another 2 trades today for $350 total.
I do have my own simple rules on when to trade and when to NOT trade. (yes. There may not be a trade on some days).
I have to be comfortable with the trade entry and where I am going to exit, BEFORE I execute it.

You sound like a very sensible trader. Having a trading strategy that matches your psychology is the way to trade.

I wish you continued good trading.
 
Quote from FortuneTeller:

Your right, I didn't bother to read the link. But I have read his blog. If he had to pay retail commissions, he would probably trade differently like he used to before he became a IOM member. He did not make big money back then. Well, maybe he made some from his Inner Circle course, ect. :D

Yes, he probably would trade differently paying retail commissions. He does what works for him. If he can't maintain his focus he will not keep making big money. His style of trading does not work for me.
 
Quote from jeb9999:


High frequency trading is thousands of trades per hour. A trader doing 110 trades a day is merely considered to be engaged in active trading.

I love high frequency trading, must be exciting.

I will step up my trading frequency. I will be happy if I reach my goal of 200 trades per hour, that is only 1/10 of a high frequency trader=thousands of trades per hour.
 
Quote from BPtrader:

I love high frequency trading, must be exciting.

I will step up my trading frequency. I will be happy if I reach my goal of 200 trades per hour, that is only 1/10 of a high frequency trader=thousands of trades per hour.

High frequency trading bots are exciting only when they don't work properly. Step up your trading and your brokerage will love you.

You appear to have missed my correction posts. So here it is again.

I made a mistake in stating "High frequency trading is thousands of trades per hour. It should have been "High frequency trading systems are capable of thousands of trades per hour." My fault for being too focused on bottom up and not top down. The maximum frequency at which trading takes place and the sustained rate of trading are two different things.

A high frequency automated trading system is capable of executing multiple trades in under 100 milliseconds, but may only find profitable opportunities a few times per hour. Thus 5 to 10 trades can take place in a second or a few seconds, but only 50 to 100 over the course of an hour. So if you have such a high frequency automated trading system doing 20 lots you end up with a volume ranging from 20 x 50 x 6.5 hours to 20 x 100 x 6.5 hours or a range of 6,500 to 13,000 lots a day.
 
Of course in all this nonsense, my point has been obfuscated.

I was saying that the more intraday trades you make , the more likely it is that each trade will have an average "small" net gain or loss.


Trading <10 times a day and you can theoretically make points per trade. 200 times, and you will most likely average much less as all the scratches and small losses eat into the average.
 
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