Ninja Zen no more unfiltered data?

No worries,

Time slices are in microseconds not milliseconds (us v. ms), regarding 10 us microseconds versus 1 us microsecond to process interrupts: Few tools can monitor, verify or validate timings at these speeds.

Throwing another wrench into the timing debate are the dual and quad core processors standard today, some of the new hardware implementations utilize a separate hardware timer.

Regardless of how ever fast you are able to process price data you are always bound to the slowest process of the overall trading system. Probably more important for performance is how your application multi-threads.


Quote from gastropod:

Hello PocketChange, I hope you do not think I am arguing with you on this thread. My discussion/rant on time slices may or may not concern what you are working on.

I do not know whether you care about the added time slice time. I believe your calculations will show you your "total" time for processing in microseconds. My whole beef is that calculations may not show (which is OK, if you don't care about them showing up and latency is not a problem for you) latency, which (if you care) is included in packet processing on any OS.

The scenario is this...

Begin time slice - you get packets - you process packets - near the end of first time slice - you get "tick C" - you begin processing "tick C" and have added a "time stamp" to it - oh oh - time slice over - wait 1 time slice for "other" program to run - now trading app runs again - "tick C" finishes processing

Does your calculation include the time of the time slice or does it just show the time of processing? Some people (who watch the latencies) care about the latency time and others (those who don't care about latencies) don't care about the added time slice.

Sorry about my lack of good communication here, but I will try an example to explain what I am saying...

The world record for the 100 meter dash is around 10 seconds. How about if I "sprint" 5 meters in 0.5 seconds...take a one hour break...come back and "sprint" another 5 meters in 0.5 seconds...repeating this sprint/break pattern for a total of 20 of my "sprints." In the end, yes, I have "run" 100 meters in about 10 seconds...but, did the 19 hours of breaks I took in between count???? My total calculation is a "10 second 100 meter run" - but my "elapsed" time is close to 1 day!

Just a thought or two :D

-gastropod
 
Quote from maxima120:

What about Transact/Infinity? I heard they are improving their feed...
Nope, have not yet found a broker supplied feed that works at ALL times without data drops for BID/ASK work.
 
Quote from PocketChange:

No worries,

Time slices are in microseconds not milliseconds (us v. ms), regarding 10 us microseconds versus 1 us microsecond to process interrupts: Few tools can monitor, verify or validate timings at these speeds.

Throwing another wrench into the timing debate are the dual and quad core processors standard today, some of the new hardware implementations utilize a separate hardware timer.

Regardless of how ever fast you are able to process price data you are always bound to the slowest process of the overall trading system. Probably more important for performance is how your application multi-threads.

Hello PC, there is an interesting article on Vista timings here -> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...e+slice+milliseconds&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

As an FYI - it seems like they are describing time slices in ms and not us ( I believe the actual context switch is us).

Regards,
gastropod
 
Interesting article: I use Vista extensively and was not aware interrupts were not counted.

When I time processes my API overhead is consistently 0.0025 counts / 2500 frequency: Approx 1 microsecond. Many of my processes are sub 1 ms to execute but entire calculation chains vary from tick to tick. There are a number of other factors in play at the trading system level. I'll dig deeper when I get some free time.



Quote from gastropod:

Hello PC, there is an interesting article on Vista timings here -> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...e+slice+milliseconds&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

As an FYI - it seems like they are describing time slices in ms and not us ( I believe the actual context switch is us).

Regards,
gastropod
 
Quote from maxima120:

What about Transact/Infinity? I heard they are improving their feed...

They are still having problems with their I/RT and Market Delta API.

Rob
 
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