Nikki, Nikki, Nikki

[Wallet]

Israel was imposed on the Palestinians. It is basically the story of a nasty land grab with bullies backed by the UK, US and such. You might want to give the surrounding locals a little leeway on their reaction. The cleansing of Palestinian families from their home was exceptionally hard boiled nasty stuff. The 'settlers' still do things that would make you sick. Well non-sociopaths anyway. Zionism had a problem, decent Jews were ashamed of their monstrous behavior but.. not that much. As you guys think like kids, who started it? The Zionists did. They are not the same as all Jews.

Well I guess that's one way to look at history, it's wrong but that's your problem. Your anti-Semitic feelings are noted.

 

[Arnie]

Palestine is Not a Country

There are eight criteria accepted by the international community used to determine whether an entity is an independent country or not.

A country need only fail on one of the eight criteria to not meet the definition of independent country status.

Palestine (and I shall consider either or both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank in this analysis) does not meet all eight criteria; it fails somewhat on one of the eight criteria...

 

[Slartibartfast]

Well I guess that's one way to look at history, it's wrong but that's your problem. Your anti-Semitic feelings are noted.

You are the anti-Semite buddy

You hate the decent nice Jews and want the nutcase fringe to bring them over the edge.

Selfish.

"We are the real Jews" say the ultra Orthodox Jews these days. That will go well.

 

[Wallet]

You are the anti-Semite buddy

You hate the decent nice Jews and want the nutcase fringe to bring them over the edge.

Selfish.

I don't think that's the way it works, sorry. And btw, I know many, many "decent nice Jews". They're all Zionist.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I don't think that's the way it works, sorry. And btw, I know many, many "decent nice Jews". They're all Zionist.

That is the way it works. You are likely (I can't say for sure) an American who's greatest experience of conflict in life was probably his or his parents divorce? You know shit buddy about the sectarian forces at play by your vacuous responses. Impress us all with a few links.

And I know faith loving Israelis who are not Zionist but they live in Israel. I know semi-Zionist Jews. I know two Orthodox Rabbis who like to speak to people outside.

A long time friend was in Israeli army intelligence, he had a lot to say about the people who call themselves the 'real jews' in Israel.

The state was founded on secular principles, however the ultra orthodox nutters are aggressively expanding. Haredi are really fucking things up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism

 

[Wallet]

That is the way it works. You are likely (I can't say for sure) an American who's greatest experience of conflict in life was probably his or his parents divorce? You know shit buddy about the sectarian forces at play by your vacuous responses. Impress us all with a few links.

And I know faith loving Israelis who are not Zionist but they live in Israel. I know semi-Zionist Jews. I know two Orthodox Rabbis who like to speak to people outside.

A long time friend was in Israeli army intelligence, he had a lot to say about the people who call themselves the 'real jews' in Israel.

The state was founded on secular principles, however the ultra orthodox nutters are aggressively expanding. Haredi are really fucking things up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism

Take a deep breath, relax.

1. You know absolutely nothing about me, where I come from, life experiences, nada.

2. There's bad apples in every barrel, we here in the US, have our fair share. But every Jewish person I know (and there's several) all want the very best for Israel, it's right to exist and want peace. The problem arises in most of their ME neighbors feel differently.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Take a deep breath, relax.

1. You know absolutely nothing about me, where I come from, life experiences, nada.

2. There's bad apples in every barrel, we here in the US, have our fair share. But every Jewish person I know (and there's several) all want the very best for Israel, it's right to exist and want peace. The problem arises in most of their ME neighbors feel differently.

Hahaha, Dunning Kruger effect much?

I'll accept that as an apology for your ignorance and we can move past this.

 

[wildchild]

UN is hostile toward Israel? What crackpipe is she smoking?
You're talking about a country which has ignored every international agreement and norm to simply expand its borders at the expense of the Palestinians.

Say if Mexico today decides to roll tanks over the US border and take New Mexico for itself, are you neocon crazies going to sit there quietly and approve of that?
I didn't think so. Yet here you are approving identical tactics.

Jewish people love playing victim though. They'll punch you in the face, scream out in pain and act as if they're the victim. Has been going on for millennia.

Hate Jews much? I know, Trump is Hitler, he is a Nazi. Dunce.

 

[Wallet]

Hahaha, Dunning Kruger effect much?

I'll accept that as an apology for your ignorance and we can move past this.

Believe whatever you want, you're the one with a screwed-up sense of history and Judaism.

Time for family, Merry Christmas.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Believe whatever you want, you're the one with a screwed-up sense of history and Judaism.

Time for family, Merry Christmas.

I forgive your ignorant intrusion. Merry Christmas.