Nigerian Pastor bills each church member N310,000 for them to gain entrance to Heaven

themickey said:
I'm tired to my back teeth of this unmitigated garbage. :(
Sheer bs!
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If someone offers you a million dollars, you can refuse it.
If someone offers to teach you a way to trade that has been proven to work you can refuse to use it. (In your case, that needs to be turned around: If you offer to teach someone how you make a lot of money trading that person may decide not to trade that way.:))
If you have ruined a relationship with someone and it was entirely your fault you can refuse to be reconciled but the relationship will never be healed.

You can choose to reject God's kindness in His offer to forgive based on Jesus.

I do not believe Christians should be forceful with someone who doesn't want to hear.

Bye for now.

Thanks for the giggles you gave me too!
 
studentofthemarkets said:
If someone offers you a million dollars, you can refuse it.
If someone offers to teach you a way to trade that has been proven to work you can refuse to use it. (In your case, that needs to be turned around: If you offer to teach someone how you make a lot of money trading that person may decide not to trade that way.:))
If you have ruined a relationship with someone and it was entirely your fault you can refuse to be reconciled but the relationship will never be healed.

You can choose to reject God's kindness in His offer to forgive based on Jesus.

I do not believe Christians should be forceful with someone who doesn't want to hear.

Bye for now.

Thanks for the giggles you gave me too!
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If someone wants to be a sheep, good on 'em.
It's not in my character to be a yes man when to me it's obvious bs.
 

This video which @Nobert posted, when I look at it, makes me imagine that this is what the early church looked like 2000 years ago.

Can you imagine people who have never been to heaven instructing people how to get to heaven?

It's like people instructing people how to fly an aeroplane when they've never been on a plane, rather, they received instructions how to write a flying instruction book from a vision they received.
Blind leading the blind.
 
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The entire hope for humanity's salvation lays in the fact, humans have to believe the message of salvation coming from humans who have a history of dishonesty.

God in effect is saying according to christians; "the way to the truth and the life is via listening and believing in liars".
 
themickey said:
The entire hope for humanity's salvation lays in the fact, humans have to believe the message of salvation coming from humans who have a history of dishonesty.

God in effect is saying according to christians; "the way to the truth and the life is via listening and believing in liars".
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You say there is a "God" but what do you know of Him?

You say there is a "God" since we didn't create ourselves, but that is simply a logical conclusion based on the evidence of our existence, not by direct revelation of your "God."

So, how do you know anything about this god if he has not revealed himself? I'm assuming you don't. You only speculate.

The one Book that bears the markings of actually containing direct revelation by God is being dismissed by you for a variety of reasons because you don't like the message.

The markings of direct revelation are: the witness of our own conscience of sin/guilt and morality. The witness of many people whose descendants still give testimony during the Passover meal that it was their ancestors that SAW God deliver them, they literal saw His appearance as a cloud above them and pillar of fire at night protecting them when fleeing Egypt. This was not an individual having a hallucination. This was a nation seeing God's manifestation of Himself and telling their kids to always remember it for all generations, which they still do. Then there are the prophecies that only God could fulfill, and by the way, only God would come up with the plan of salvation. It is contrary to what people want to hear. It is ALSO contrary to dictatorship in churches so your line of reasoning that the gospel was designed to control people has NO basis in reality. That people choose to use religion for control has nothing to do with Biblical salvation or Christianity.

I'm not really back cuz I don't like reading what you write that is blasphemous against God, but I just had to say something in response to your nonsense.

Have a good weekend.
 
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studentofthemarkets said:
You say there is a "God" but what do you know of Him?
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I don't know if there is a God, I'm just using the phrase.
I'm agnostic, can't prove for nor against.
There are so many humans who believe in God (lmao) and bandy the word about, that it is a common term many associate with.
I rail against Christianity because so many gullible people are so confident they know 'Him'.
This whole religion / christianity is a massive con, I've said that before.
 
studentofthemarkets said:
I don't like reading what you write that is blasphemous
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Yeah anyone questioning human liars (remember, everyone is a liar) about God is blaspheming.
We have liars telling other liars to believe them, lmao.
There are different degrees of dishonesty, all shades of the same thing.
 
Not only do christians believe the bible is the true word of God, they believe and trust all the church hierachy are honest and truthful.
That is laughable, pure folly!
When someone becomes 'christian', their sinning doesnt cease! That's a fact overlooked by the sheep.
 
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