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Dear Annie,
I thank you for the insightful words. I am keen to spread Vic's message to new market participants and further assist current ones. I am not a "miss" though, I have no ovaries to speak of. This thread I believe has been one of the very best in elitetrader.com's history to dispel any erroneous myths that have been perpetuated. If people will buy such books by Vic, they will become far better traders. I am sanguine about the future of the traders who truly embrace the tenor of this series of posts. I wish you well,
Sincerely,
T
ALL of the posts where you've thanked folks for their kind words have been the same user giving you kind words. I've checked the IPs. Just thought you should know. They're all Marketsurfer.
One more surfer alias here and I'll close this thread for good.
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Perhaps they have unresolved issues regarding money.

Your concern is most touching. Suddenly, this thread is about me and not about a man who has arguably succumbed to moral hazard by gaming the system to the full under the pretense of scientific observation and calculated risk. As it appears to me, the only calculating being done is on performance compensation with little or no regard to the inevitable and catastrophic downside associated with overleveraged risk taking.Quote from thoreau777:
Dear Gabfly,
I can assure you the past, present, and future partners involved with Vic had no issues whatsoever with funds or such psychological issues. However, I do sense in you more than a scintilla of sardonic and yet at times acrimonious content. That is based on your previous posts. I remain amused but concerned for you...
I wish to help you. Did you become so disillusioned with your own trading performance that you feel the need to castigate Vic without any merit or evidence? I do detect from your mordant and often trenchant posts that there is some unresolved issues inside you. You have indeed suffered much in your life, and the proverbial "chip" on your shoulder manifests as a giant boulder. Please do not attack Vic anymore because it is based on false pretenses. Rather, examine yourself and your need to engage in an onery fashion.
I do wonder if you had blown out your account as of late, or endured some life crisis or painful experience. Usually, through my many years, I have noticed that the harshest criticisms towards me came from those who had recently suffered excruciating losses in trading or in life.
I can endeavor to ameliorate your sentiments. I have "been there, and done that." I do not presume to know you nor will I patronize you. I only am curious as to why you attacked Vic with such an unabashed contumelious tongue.
If you have indeed suffered in your trading performance or another area of your life, please do seek the counsel of your faith and in universal love and gratefulness. I am approaching the autumn of my own life, and I am concerned for you. I do not wish to take the topic off of trading, but I remain assured in my assessments. Please do understand that through adversity and difficulty, your character will be strengthened, and your spirit renewed.
After reviewing your messages, I concomittantly feel a smile on my face as to your witty dialogue juxtaposed with a wistful sigh at the plight you may be laboring under.
I say this with the utmost respect, and I feel that your attacks at Vic were not truly directed at him, but rather at an unseen force that you need to manifest your current bitterness. I forgive you, and I hold you as a friend on this earth. By the way, did you go to his website to elucidate your opinions about him?

Hi surf, nice outfit. In anticipation of St. Patrick's Day?Quote from greencapital:
Very well announciated, 777. however, you are being far too kind to this malicious soul.
Yes, Gabfly AKA Tdog takes his issues out on anyone he see as superior or elitest. He is a true man of the collective.
A lazy middle class intellectual, a 21st century boyman who prefers the lukewarm safety of the hivemind to breaking out and taking real risk. risk is something he avoids at all costs.
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Your concern is most touching. Suddenly, this thread is about me and not about a man who has arguably succumbed to moral hazard by gaming the system to the full under the pretense of scientific observation and calculated risk. As it appears to me, the only calculating being done is on performance compensation with little or no regard to the inevitable and catastrophic downside associated with overleveraged risk taking.
Yes, what is wrong with me? Only flawed people would find such conduct, coupled with attention-seeking behavior, to be distasteful.![]()
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am very close to Victor, and he is not guilty "gaming the system". He acted with the highest level of moral integrity and with the best intentions. Sure, he has had a couple of difficult years, but that is true likely of every trader. With a career as long as Vic's, how can you NOT have a few difficult periods? Besides, I explained the circumstances behind the couple of difficult years and noted the blame was not entirely his to shoulder.
Again, thank you for your concern. The only "others" with whom I take issue are the arrogant and pretentious. It's a curse. However, I have learned to live with it by generally responding in kind to those who are so predisposed. I find it therapeutic.Quote from thoreau777:
...I am not redirecting this thread to you, but rather, to help you. I have read many of your previous posts, and I detected a level of animosity towards "others" in general. I would stop short of labeling you as misanthropic, but clearly you have deep seated issues. Please do not take offense at this, it is not meant as such.
Vic? You mean the fellow with the ostentatious, pastel wardrobe? The man who, on the jacket cover of one of his books, wore a suit but no shoes or socks? That Vic? The one who didn't allow his traders to read anything but the National Enquirer? The man who named a daughter after a preposterous cartoon character conceived by Ayn Rand? (Francis Galton my ass.)Quote from thoreau777:
...Realize that I am not "attention seeking", nor is Vic...
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Again, thank you for your concern. The only "others" with whom I take issue are the arrogant and pretentious. It's a curse. However, I have learned to live with it by generally responding in kind to those who are so predisposed. I find it therapeutic.
Vic? You mean the fellow with the ostentatious, pastel wardrobe? The man who, on the jacket cover of one of his books, wore a suit but no shoes or socks? That Vic? The one who didn't allow his traders to read anything but the National Enquirer? The man who named a daughter after a preposterous cartoon character conceived by Ayn Rand? (Francis Galton my ass.)
