nice to see WFMI get its butt kicked. You cant cheat forever

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i guess the answer is to tough for you to answer.
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The mere need to answer that question is proof the answer would fall on deaf ears.
 
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Just can't quite bring myself to let this slide.

So... do you even know what "organic" means? It refers to a carbon-containing compound. Thus, there is no such thing as an inorganic apple. Period.

That is the concrete, indisputable definition of the word "organic". The definition the farming industry (or at least parts of the farming industry) wants you to accept is "food that doesn't have 'unnatural' stuff in it". The problem is, there's no such thing as "unnatural". EVERYTHING comes from nature... don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Every single nasty artificial "chemical" ever made ultimately came from nature. (It's just a matter of processing) Some processed chemicals are deemed "natural"; some are deemed artificial and thus banned from use in 'organic' food. The decision to deem something 'organic' or not is completely arbitrary. You claim that your "organic" food hasn't been sprayed... wrong... it's just been sprayed with a chemical that's been deemed "organic".

But let's assume for a moment that it isn't, and that somehow they properly and unambiguously classify techniques and chemicals as "natural" and "unnatural". Who the hell cares? Golden Rice is "unnatural" because it was genetically modified (to be MUCH healthier than regular rice, at least for cultures still suffering from vitamin A deficiency.) Wild-grown hemlock, on the other hand, easily passes the "organic" test. Plenty of herbal supplements (e.g. Ma Huang) are/were marketed as "natural" though they are quite deadly. "Artificially" vitamin-enhanced foods save millions of children around the world from once-common developmental diseases.

I am not against the idea of healthier food. I'm not against the concept of newly synthesized compounds having to prove their safety *before* widespread consumption. A lot foods that tout themselves as 'organic' actually do a lot of things right and are indeed healthier. And some scientific advances, like trans-fatty acid based products, turn out to be REALLY bad.

On the other hand, some foods which claim to be more-organic or more-natural (e.g. unpasteurized milk) are actually much more dangerous than their "artificial" counterparts. Plenty of beneficial, health-promoting techniques like irradiation, pasteurization, and genetic modification (depending on the genes altered--and before you go all Luddite on me please realize we've been modifying plants' genes for THOUSANDS of years. It's called selective breeding) are unfairly demonized even though they're proven to promote health, save money and/or even save lives.

The organic movement is a sham. At best it's an attempt to over-simplify the issue of "healthy food" for extremely lazy consumers. At worse, it's an attempt to actively redefine "healthy" as "whatever marketable buzzword we've come up with this week." That they've managed to get the USDA in on the scam only makes it that much scarier.

Stop buying into the bullshit. If you don't trust chemical X then don't buy anything that contains it. The stupidest thing you can possibly do is go out and buy something that claims to be "chemical-free" (if you don't understand what's wrong with that phrase... I give up.)

Similarly, it's a lie to say that inorganic food exists. It doesn't. Ask a chemist. Organic means "containing carbon". Any other definition you find has been invented by marketers, lobbyists, and/or clueless hippies.
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Organic food is a sham? Ok buddy. And I am sure the overall health of the country doesn't have anything to do with the food quality?

Why do people eat organic GRASS FEED(contains CLA/omega 3s) steaks actually lower their cholesterol, as opposed to those who eat conventional steaks who get their labs screwed up by red meat.

Babies are getting sicker and sicker, but how could that be? We give them vaccinations and all the "good" food they need. It couldn't be the crap in their carrots or pears could it?

Why does organic ketchup contain over 80% more lycopene than regular ketchup? Lycopene never helped anyone, only idiots believed it ever has.

Thats just a few examples. Google "benefits of organic foods".

As long as you get milk from a local farm that you know is kept clean(like 99% of them) get unpasteurized milk. It is much better for you. LIVE food with LIVE enzymes is far better than the dead crap available in the grocery store. Pasteurization was created i the 1800 when food needed to be pasteurized because the conditions were terrible, but that is no longer the case. Pasteurization is not always needed.

The food industry doesn't want people to be healthier, because a fatter population consumes more food. And I will not even touch the addictive properties of "Artificial and Natural Flavors" I can go to WF and get a few days worth of food for the same that you can go to McDonald's and get diabetes for a few days.

Our population is getting older and older because of our advancement in healthcare(aka sickcare). But that is always just a patch, never a cure(healthy people wont pay medical bills). The health of the country is declining and it is directly related to the foods we are eating and our inactivity.

Keep going to walmart and getting your beef, fruits and veggies my friend, just means more REAL food for me =)
 
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The mere need to answer that question is proof the answer would fall on deaf ears.
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logic obviously plays an important role in your life. fortunately it is not a necessity for being a s trader.
 
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