You said this in another thread. I don't think Jem or I give two shits about your studies or concerns. We just want to make sure you're set straight when you post your daily shovels of bullshit all day long.
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NFL says coronavirus outbreaks among unvaccinated players may lead to forfeits this season
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You said this in another thread. I don't think Jem or I give two shits about your studies or concerns. We just want to make sure you're set straight when you post your daily shovels of bullshit all day long.
As I said the science and data out of Isreal shows cam newton as someone who already had Covid - is 13 to 7 times less likely to get re-infected or have serious covid compared to the average person who never had covid but is fully vaccinated.
(per the data coming out of our best data set in Isreal)
I hope he gets a new team but if not... I think he would have a tremendous case against the NFL because their policy has now been shown to be non sensical.
Natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity...
(per the data coming out of our best data set in Isreal)
I hope he gets a new team but if not... I think he would have a tremendous case against the NFL because their policy has now been shown to be non sensical.
Natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity...
As I said the science and data out of Isreal shows cam newton as someone who already had Covid - is 13 to 7 times less likely to get re-infected or have serious covid compared to the average person who never had covid but is fully vaccinated.
(per the data coming out of our best data set in Isreal)
I hope he gets a new team but if not... I think he would have a tremendous case against the NFL because their policy has now been shown to be non sensical.
Natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity...
The science shows that someone who has had COVID and one jab of the vaccine is is less likely to get re-infected than someone with two doses of the vaccine in one particular study -- a study which has a number of scientific issues. You really should stop pushing nonsense.
This is the study below is based the best data set we have. The Israeli data.
a. natural immunity was 13 times better than no covid but fully vacinated.
and
naturally immunity was 7 times superior than fully vaccinated for avoiding symptomatic disease.
And when you realize Symptomatics are all the very vast majority of the spreaders... .
Per science and data Cam New is much safer than every guy playing who is fully vaxxed but never had covid.
Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
a. natural immunity was 13 times better than no covid but fully vacinated.
and
naturally immunity was 7 times superior than fully vaccinated for avoiding symptomatic disease.
And when you realize Symptomatics are all the very vast majority of the spreaders... .
Per science and data Cam New is much safer than every guy playing who is fully vaxxed but never had covid.
Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
The science shows that someone who has had COVID and one jab of the vaccine is is less likely to get re-infected than someone with two doses of the vaccine in one particular study -- a study which has a number of scientific issues. You really should stop pushing nonsense.
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This is the study below is based the best data set we have. The Israeli data.
a. natural immunity was 13 times better than no covid but fully vacinated.
and
naturally immunity was 7 times superior than fully vaccinated for avoiding symptomatic disease.
And when you realize Symptomatics are all the very vast majority of the spreaders... .
Per science and data Cam New is vastly safer than every guy playing who is fully vaxxed but never had covid.
Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
So once again you are just posting proof that those with one vaccination plus infection have less chance of reinfection those with two vaccinations. Either way -- the individuals are getting at least one vaccination.
What Science and Data in the study show..
A. no I am saying the data in our best data set shows natural immunity is far better than fully vaccinated immunity.
Your... Side Note argument...
B. You are harping on a side note.. in that article.
so I will address it.
natural immunity
plus
partial vaccination
may be good for a short time too...
We would need more data and better data on the timing of the one shot and we would to see how long it outperforms. My guess would be ... a few months... based on how long the vaccines spike antibodies.
But what happens when the artificially spiked antibodies fade around the 5 or 6 month mark? Do you become more susceptible to infection ?
We need more data.
Could it be that the spiked antibodies causes the natural immune system to wind down a bit?
C. Without more data... I don't think you, me or any scientist is going to push for partial vaccination...
so as of now you are the one pushing nonsense.
(More data might change that.
Maybe partial vaccination keeps the natural immune system from shutting down but two shots shuts it down... we shall need data.)
A. no I am saying the data in our best data set shows natural immunity is far better than fully vaccinated immunity.
Your... Side Note argument...
B. You are harping on a side note.. in that article.
so I will address it.
natural immunity
plus
partial vaccination
may be good for a short time too...
We would need more data and better data on the timing of the one shot and we would to see how long it outperforms. My guess would be ... a few months... based on how long the vaccines spike antibodies.
But what happens when the artificially spiked antibodies fade around the 5 or 6 month mark? Do you become more susceptible to infection ?
We need more data.
Could it be that the spiked antibodies causes the natural immune system to wind down a bit?
C. Without more data... I don't think you, me or any scientist is going to push for partial vaccination...
so as of now you are the one pushing nonsense.
(More data might change that.
Maybe partial vaccination keeps the natural immune system from shutting down but two shots shuts it down... we shall need data.)
So once again you are just posting proof that those with one vaccination plus infection have less chance of reinfection those with two vaccinations. Either way -- the individuals are getting at least one vaccination.
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Which NFL teams are 100% vaccinated against COVID-19?
We take a look at vaccination updates for NFL teams and which teams are fully vaccinated heading into 2021 NFL season.
https://dknation.draftkings.com/202...accination-rates-fully-vaccinated-100-percent
We take a look at vaccination updates for NFL teams and which teams are fully vaccinated heading into 2021 NFL season.
https://dknation.draftkings.com/202...accination-rates-fully-vaccinated-100-percent
The NFL teams are not putting up with unvaccinated players -- stating there will be consequences.
Indianapolis Colts GM Chris Ballard: 'Consequences' for players unvaccinated against COVID-19
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-players-unvaccinated-covid-19-take-care-team
Indianapolis Colts GM Chris Ballard: 'Consequences' for players unvaccinated against COVID-19
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-players-unvaccinated-covid-19-take-care-team
Nobody wants a plague rat...
NFL teams don’t want Cam Newton
https://nypost.com/2021/09/03/nfl-teams-dont-want-cam-newton/
NFL teams don’t want Cam Newton
https://nypost.com/2021/09/03/nfl-teams-dont-want-cam-newton/