News you won't see on CNN - School Shooting Hero properly lays blame

UsualName said:
There’s no way the government at any level or all levels combined can prevent these shootings from happening because of the amount of guns in America. There simply is too many guns.

There’s something called critical mass in sustaining a nuclear reaction. It’s how we are able to predictably create nuclear energy. It takes levels of material reaching a certain threshold then the reaction is sustained. It’s the same thing with guns. We’ve reached a level of guns that it’s impossible to stop the shootings. It’s now at a predictable and sustained level.
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We had more guns per capita and they were a lot more available for most of the last 200 years, yet we never had these mass shootings. What changed?
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
We had more guns per capita and they were a lot more available for most of the last 200 years, yet we never had these mass shootings. What changed?
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We had more guns per capita when? You might get want to go check the accuracy on that one.
 
piezoe said:
I used to think this as well, and when you say "prevent" you mean of course significantly reduce the probability. In fact, Lucrum had me totally convinced it was true that we could never do much about gun violence and mass shootings because there were just too many guns already and the Second amendment constrained us. But I have learned much more, and now I am convinced I was wrong. Logically the number of guns is a factor, but the types of guns and their distribution should be a far more important factor. The usual arguments are incorrectly phrased. The arguments should be probability based and take into account both the types of guns and their distribution among owners. Arguing that doing this or that will stop gun crimes is is a losing argument. The arguments must relate to probability. And of course any measure in the U.S. will be Second Amendment constrained. But this is, in reality, not a significant restraint. It has been falsely made to appear so.

For example, per capita gun ownership in Canada is estimated to be about half, or a little less, what it is in the U.S. It is easy therefore to blame the higher rate of gun crime in the U.S. on the much higher per capita rate of gun ownership. However this argument breaks down as soon as distribution is taken into account. And if the difference in gun laws in the two countries is ignored, than the arguments based on per capita gun ownership are no longer persuasive in the least. The gun laws are very different in Canada, as is the rate of gun crimes and mass shootings.. Just the number of guns divided by the population is far too crude a measure to allow any conclusion, but it does provide an attractive, but defective, argument for the gun lobby.
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So my thought isn’t so much about distribution and probability, but critical mass and certainty.

I’m sure if we kept the same number of guns in America and replaced them with revolutionary war single shot rifles the number of mass shootings would go down to zero. So, yes, I agree the types of weapons available pay a key role too.
 
I would also like to add, our government law enforcement agencies at every level prevent untold numbers of mass shootings yearly. There is simply too many potential shooters and availability of guns to make that zero.
 
Here4money said:
I like how you want civil discourse on gun laws and then tell people to leave the country when they bring up an idea.
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No, I only tell them that when they say it over and over and over again after being debated and shown why it won't work, yet simply ignoring it. At a certain point, when you can tell you've got a dope that won't listen to anything but the sound of their own voice, you get frustrated.
 
piezoe said:
Yah right. Nothing can work here except semiautomatic assault style guns equipped with bumpstocks acquired at a gun show.
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Plenty can work. But you seem to want to focus on unicorn solutions instead of making real progress.
 
Tsing Tao said:
No, I only tell them that when they say it over and over and over again after being debated and shown why it won't work, yet simply ignoring it. At a certain point, when you can tell you've got a dope that won't listen to anything but the sound of their own voice, you get frustrated.
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What is the prevalence of typical gun owners having full auto machine guns after the 80's ban?

What is the prevalence of your typical home breaking tug or gang banger having a full auto machine gun?
 
Here4money said:
What is the prevalence of typical gun owners having full auto machine guns after the 80's ban?
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What typical gun owners have a full machine gun? I don't know any and I know a ton of people who own guns. Where are you coming up with this?

Here4money said:
What is the prevalence of your typical home breaking tug or gang banger having a full auto machine gun?
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Again, what are you talking about?

 
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