New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

smallfil said:
The only decision that matters is the US Supreme Court. Jack Smith, special prosecutor just asked the US Supreme Court if President Donald Trump is liable for January 6? Let us see what they say. Too many biased, extreme liberal judges in the lower and appellate courts appointed by Democrats and RINOs. We need the rule of law put back into our legal system.
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"Jack Smith, special prosecutor just asked the US Supreme Court" DID NOT ask "if President Donald Trump is liable for January 6".

The question before the US Supreme Court is if a U.S. President can be held liable for crimes he committed while in office.

If the US Supreme Court states that a U.S. President cannot be held liable for crimes he/she committed while in office then this means that any U.S. President can do pretty much what they please.

For example, this means that Biden could round up every Republican member of Congress and conservative Supreme Court justice and place them in concentration camps --- because the US Supreme Court ruled that a U.S. President cannot be held liable for crimes while in office. The ramifications of this ruling extend well beyond merely Trump -- but apply to the entire U.S. system of government and legal responsibility.
 
Chris Kise reiterated Trump’s criticism of Engoron — who is not included in the gag order — in a statement provided to ABC News Tuesday.
"There is really nothing more to say to a Judge who has imposed an unconstitutional gag order and thus far appears to have ignored President Trump's testimony and that of everyone else involved in the complex financial transactions at issue in the case," Kise reportedly said.
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Kise continues to name Trump as; "President Trump".

"On September 26, 2023, Kise was sanctioned along with four other attorneys for making "repetitive, frivolous" arguments on behalf of Trump and the Trump Organization in the context of New York litigation challenging alleged fraud. The court held that the attorneys had been "expressly warned" that the positions they were taking had already been repeatedly rejected by both the trial and appellate court, and concluded that "sanctions are the only way to impress upon defendants' attorneys the consequences of engaging in repetitive, frivolous motion practice after this Court, affirmed by the Appellate Division, expressly warned them against doing so."
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gwb-trading said:
"Jack Smith, special prosecutor just asked the US Supreme Court" DID NOT ask "if President Donald Trump is liable for January 6".

The question before the US Supreme Court is if a U.S. President can be held liable for crimes he committed while in office.
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Trump's million-dollar expert 'lost all credibility,' judge in civil fraud trial says

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-million-dollar-expert-lost-223110080.html

NEW YORK (Reuters) -An expert witness paid nearly $1 million by Donald Trump to testify at his New York civil fraud trial "lost all credibility" by "doggedly" justifying the former U.S. president's business records, the judge overseeing the case said on Monday.

Eli Bartov, a New York University accounting professor, testified on Dec. 7 that he did not see any evidence of fraud in Trump's family real estate company's financial statements, which New York state's attorney general alleges overstated property values in order to win favorable loan and insurance terms.


Bartov testified that he spent 650 hours on the case at a rate of $1,350 per hour, meaning his compensation totaled around $877,500. Bartov said his invoices were paid both by the Trump Organization and by Save America, a political action committee supporting Trump's 2024 election campaign.

"All that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars, some experts will say whatever you want them to say," Justice Arthur Engoron wrote in a scathing denial of several requests by Trump for the case to be decided in his favor.

"By doggedly attempting to justify every misstatement, Professor Bartov lost all credibility," Engoron wrote.

In an email, Bartov said Engoron was wrong to say the "overarching point" of his testimony was that Trump's statements were "accurate in every respect." He pointed to his testimony that Trump's statements contained inadvertent errors.

"No expert rebutted my testimony or testified that they found fraud," Bartov said. "As to his speculation that my billing rate had anything to do with my opinion, this is my standard billing rate."

Christopher Kise, a lawyer for Trump, said in a statement that Engoron's ruling "represents a complete failure to address the legal elements of the claims to be decided.

"All that seems to matter is arriving at a predetermined destination," Kise said.

The trial has focused mostly on damages, as Engoron ruled before it started in early October that Trump and his adult sons manipulated financial statements to dupe banks and insurers.

New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, is seeking $250 million in penalties and wants Trump banned from the New York state real estate business.

Trump, the leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, has denied wrongdoing and called the case politically motivated.

In his three-page written ruling, Engoron acknowledged the defense's argument that property valuations are subjective and that inaccurate information in financial statements must be "material" to break the law. But he said Trump's statements were "replete with examples of material misstatements."

"A lie is still a lie," Engoron wrote.

Closing arguments in the trial are set for Jan. 11.

Trump separately faces four state and federal criminal indictments, including two over charges he sought to overturn his loss to Democratic President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
Trump's million-dollar expert 'lost all credibility,' judge in civil fraud trial says

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-million-dollar-expert-lost-223110080.html

NEW YORK (Reuters) -An expert witness paid nearly $1 million by Donald Trump to testify at his New York civil fraud trial "lost all credibility" by "doggedly" justifying the former U.S. president's business records, the judge overseeing the case said on Monday.

Eli Bartov, a New York University accounting professor, testified on Dec. 7 that he did not see any evidence of fraud in Trump's family real estate company's financial statements, which New York state's attorney general alleges overstated property values in order to win favorable loan and insurance terms.


Bartov testified that he spent 650 hours on the case at a rate of $1,350 per hour, meaning his compensation totaled around $877,500. Bartov said his invoices were paid both by the Trump Organization and by Save America, a political action committee supporting Trump's 2024 election campaign.

"All that his testimony proves is that for a million or so dollars, some experts will say whatever you want them to say," Justice Arthur Engoron wrote in a scathing denial of several requests by Trump for the case to be decided in his favor.

"By doggedly attempting to justify every misstatement, Professor Bartov lost all credibility," Engoron wrote.

In an email, Bartov said Engoron was wrong to say the "overarching point" of his testimony was that Trump's statements were "accurate in every respect." He pointed to his testimony that Trump's statements contained inadvertent errors.

"No expert rebutted my testimony or testified that they found fraud," Bartov said. "As to his speculation that my billing rate had anything to do with my opinion, this is my standard billing rate."

Christopher Kise, a lawyer for Trump, said in a statement that Engoron's ruling "represents a complete failure to address the legal elements of the claims to be decided.

"All that seems to matter is arriving at a predetermined destination," Kise said.

The trial has focused mostly on damages, as Engoron ruled before it started in early October that Trump and his adult sons manipulated financial statements to dupe banks and insurers.

New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, is seeking $250 million in penalties and wants Trump banned from the New York state real estate business.

Trump, the leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, has denied wrongdoing and called the case politically motivated.

In his three-page written ruling, Engoron acknowledged the defense's argument that property valuations are subjective and that inaccurate information in financial statements must be "material" to break the law. But he said Trump's statements were "replete with examples of material misstatements."

"A lie is still a lie," Engoron wrote.

Closing arguments in the trial are set for Jan. 11.

Trump separately faces four state and federal criminal indictments, including two over charges he sought to overturn his loss to Democratic President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
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One thing to remember here is that Engeron is part of the coup attempt and has no credibility whatsoballsout.
 
Let's see the latest absurd false claims being shoveled by Trump...

Trump falsely claims a N.Y. Post reporter seated in court is Judge Engoron's son
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-engoron-son-false/

Trump's been falsely accusing Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron's son of rooting on from the gallery. But the "well-groomed" man in the photo that the 45th president has repeatedly posted on Truth Social claiming as such smack below the fat red arrow is actually a New York Post reporter.

Ben Kochman penned a first-person account to correct the record in a story titled: "It's me, Don!"

"The Post can now confirm that the pictured bespectacled, well-groomed target is not the kin of Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron," he wrote. "I should know — I’m the guy in the photo."

Former President Donald Trump and his grown sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. along with other Trump Organization executives are on trial in Lower Manhattan in a $250 million civil lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James accusing them of committing widespread fraud to exaggerate the former president's net work to gain better deal terms and loans.

Kochman wrote how the 77-year-old one-term president seeking a second term, repeatedly used a photo showing the people seated in the gallery accompanying "fringe-right activist" Lara Loomer article from Nov. 7 that was "inexplicably claiming Engoron’s son is 'financially benefitting' from being given a 'prominent' seat at the trial."

He noted that the post reaches Trump’s 6.52 million followers on his app Truth Social.

Apparently Kochman first learned about the false identification on social media by the former commander in chief back in late November, but at the time he "felt it wasn’t worth giving any air."

Then Trump did it again.

He posted the snap and, Kochman writes, "upped the ante by including a comment from famously fact-challenged disgraced ex-Congressman George Santos."

That was enough for him.

"I thought it was worth setting the record straight," the reporter wrote.

Read the full article here.
 
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