New York City inmate more costly than Ivy League tuition

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Lucrum:

According to you, there isn't any <s>cost growth</s> inflation.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Because he would have asked that, if that was the reason for his question. Which you know, of course.

He could have asked more generically, yes, but a change in living conditions could help explain Lucrum's observation that incarceration didn't used to cost so much. Maybe those conditions have been excessively improved.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Ricter:

...Maybe those conditions have been excessively improved.

Golly Gee Wilikers Ricter, ya really think so?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

He could have asked more generically, yes, but a change in living conditions could help explain Lucrum's observation that incarceration didn't used to cost so much. Maybe those conditions have been excessively improved.

I'm sure they have improved. But when he asked the question, he was indicating that improved conditions was worthy of the expense, when the reality is that it is JAIL. Conditions aren't supposed to be the deciding factor.

"Shit, if you live in an old project, a new jail aint that bad!" - Chris Rock

 

[wilburbear]

Quote from Ricter:

He could have asked more generically, yes, but a change in living conditions could help explain Lucrum's observation that incarceration didn't used to cost so much. Maybe those conditions have been excessively improved.

It's not so much what jail costs, it's that there might have been 20k, spent at exactly the right time earlier on, (perhaps on education), to avoid this whole mess.............

 

[Ricter]

Quote from wilburbear:

It's not so much what jail costs, it's that there might have been 20k, spent at exactly the right time earlier on, (perhaps on education), to avoid this whole mess.............

I absolutely agree in principle.

 

[Spike Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Who gives a shit, dude? It's JAIL. What kind of stupid ass question is that?

My dads ex-broker(the guys retired now)is a close friend of Madoff and visits him regularly.He says Madoff lives like a king, eats the best of foods, ice-cream and everything with all the comforts he had on the outside.Surely there's a cost factor involved somewhere in there.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Spike Trader:

My dads ex-broker(the guys retired now)is a close friend of Madoff and visits him regularly.He says Madoff lives like a king, eats the best of foods, ice-cream and everything with all the comforts he had on the outside.Surely there's a cost factor involved somewhere in there.

I've often thought we should occasionally use some kind of "life force calculus" for sentencing. Somehow it's more acceptable for a guy like Madoff to take a couple of years off the life of thousands, than it is for another guy to simply kill 20.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from Lucrum:

It's a stupid ass liberal question. It's how they "think", in a manner of speaking.

Spike's all for coddling bad guys. That is until one hurts him, or his family, then he'd demand the most evil treatment. Yep, we know the leftist bull shit at this point...

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

Quote from wilburbear:

It's not so much what jail costs, it's that there might have been 20k, spent at exactly the right time earlier on, (perhaps on education), to avoid this whole mess.............

Psychopaths are 20% of prison populations and do 50% of all serious crimes even though they are just 1-2% of the overall population. It's all a waste of money if psychopaths are not separated out and treated differently. They never, ever, reform. They might learn what they can get away with better but educating them, reforming them, etc... it's a complete waste of money. Having the non-psychopaths housed with the psychopaths while trying to help them is also very wasteful, the psychopaths will not let people learn, improve, etc.

My brother-in-law taught in a reform school, a locked up place, I saw it once, met the kids, they were behind bars. He quit after a few years. He told his bosses that if he were allowed to kill two of the students he could educate the rest. He had two students that would beat up kids that did well in the classroom and yes, he seemed serious about killing them but nobody was going to allow that of course.

I'm advocating that we diagnose psychopaths as early in their lives as possible and get their info up on the web so that society can be warned of what they are dealing with. They should never get a driving license or a firearm, they will not be conscientious about disposing of toxic waste so they shouldn't be sold anything that requires special disposal, no money should be spent on their rehabilitation, it's a complete waste because they think they are fine and the rest of us are weak. They should never be put in a situation where they can ruin things for normal people or otherwise destroy them.