New Trading System - Input Please.

apdxyk · May 1, 2020

Yup, the i7 vs i5 debate is hilarious. That alone is great indicator...
Years ago I set a task for myself to trade off a single standard monitor, so I could trade anywhere and under any conditions. That was the best thing that happened.
I agree with the orator above who emphasised the need for redundant communication lines.

systematictrader · May 1, 2020

scubasid said:
Looking at a New Desktop System from Dell :
Intel Core i5-9500,(6 Core, 9MB Cache, 3.0Ghz, 4.4 Ghz Turbo w/UHD Graphics 630)
NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB, 3 mDP to DP adapter
16GB DDR4 2666MHz UDIMM Non-ECC Memory

Monitor I have now is a :> Dell 29 inch -- U2917W, Resolution 2560 x 1080,
Aspect Ratio 21:9

Would be adding either (TWO) -> Dell 27" P2719HC -Resolution 1920 x 1080
Aspect Ratio 16:9
or
(ONE) -> Dell 43" 4K U43OQ Resolution 3840 x2160
Aspect Ratio 16:9

Thoughts on Intel Core i5-9500 with 6 CORE enough ?
Video Card Enough for what I want < NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB >

increase your ram

systematictrader · May 1, 2020

gaussian said:
I'm baffled that people spend so much on trading rigs.

I will put on my day trader hat. Here are the things I think I would need:

1. Reliable internet
2. A reliable phone or two for my broker
3. A decent rig capable of running my trading software

(1) is where most of your money should go. A T1 line will run you 600-800 a month but you'll have a guaranteed SLA.

(2) is next, you'll want two phones. One cell phone and one land line.

(3) Finally you can spend a grand or two on a decent workstation that can support 5-6 monitors. Every trading software I've used would run on an internet connected toaster with the exception of IB TWS.

I have no idea why everyone is concerned with hardware when the real bottleneck is just how unaffordable a fiber/T1 pipe is for a retail consumer.

600-800 a Month? Really? Thats needed? Today still?

systematictrader · May 1, 2020

scubasid said:
Looking at a New Desktop System from Dell :
Intel Core i5-9500,(6 Core, 9MB Cache, 3.0Ghz, 4.4 Ghz Turbo w/UHD Graphics 630)
NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB, 3 mDP to DP adapter
16GB DDR4 2666MHz UDIMM Non-ECC Memory

Monitor I have now is a :> Dell 29 inch -- U2917W, Resolution 2560 x 1080,
Aspect Ratio 21:9

Would be adding either (TWO) -> Dell 27" P2719HC -Resolution 1920 x 1080
Aspect Ratio 16:9
or
(ONE) -> Dell 43" 4K U43OQ Resolution 3840 x2160
Aspect Ratio 16:9

Thoughts on Intel Core i5-9500 with 6 CORE enough ?
Video Card Enough for what I want < NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB >

Get used monitors u save tons of money because monitors can cost more than the pc

i personally think its a good idea to spend i would say no more than 1500 on the pc as your first trading loss
Worth it
The multiple monitors also come in handy in an array of many other none trading items

personally i got 6 monitors i use 3 usb to dvi and ive had this set up for ofer 8 years
Same pc

systematictrader · May 1, 2020

scubasid said:
Looking at a New Desktop System from Dell :
Intel Core i5-9500,(6 Core, 9MB Cache, 3.0Ghz, 4.4 Ghz Turbo w/UHD Graphics 630)
NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB, 3 mDP to DP adapter
16GB DDR4 2666MHz UDIMM Non-ECC Memory

Monitor I have now is a :> Dell 29 inch -- U2917W, Resolution 2560 x 1080,
Aspect Ratio 21:9

Would be adding either (TWO) -> Dell 27" P2719HC -Resolution 1920 x 1080
Aspect Ratio 16:9
or
(ONE) -> Dell 43" 4K U43OQ Resolution 3840 x2160
Aspect Ratio 16:9

Thoughts on Intel Core i5-9500 with 6 CORE enough ?
Video Card Enough for what I want < NVIDIA Quadro P400, 2GB >

N set up one or
Two monitors upright for your options chain or pdf files
Lolz
But nothing important though

gaussian · May 1, 2020

systematictrader said:
600-800 a Month? Really? Thats needed? Today still?

On the weekends because of the coronavirus my shared internet (also known as your standard issue neighborhood trunk WAN you buy from Comcast or whatever) will go from the advertised speed of 300Mbps down to 490 kbps down. I lose 99% of my throughput immediately because 200 of the people trunked with me are watching 4k pornhub and netflix all night. There's no SLA for residential lines - the provider simply "tries their best" to match you. Last weekend at 11pm my internet became completely unusable even for checking the news. Calling my provider gave me exactly what I expected - "you have no SLA and there is high load at the trunk right now, we can't do anything".

If I had a T1 pipe I'd have a dedicated trunk to myself (and the closet in my house) where I wouldn't experience these things.

If you're trading on the 1min and the guys smoking pot and beating off to 4k porn lag your connection you could miss a signal or get hosed. Due to the pandemic there is an unprecedented amount of coomers and consoomers gulping bandwidth consuming content down by the bucketful.

There is absolutely a use for them. That's why every business has them.

p0box4 · May 1, 2020

gaussian said:
On the weekends because of the coronavirus my shared internet (also known as your standard issue neighborhood trunk WAN you buy from Comcast or whatever) will go from the advertised speed of 300Mbps down to 490 kbps down. I lose 99% of my throughput immediately because 200 of the people trunked with me are watching 4k pornhub and netflix all night. There's no SLA for residential lines - the provider simply "tries their best" to match you. Last weekend at 11pm my internet became completely unusable even for checking the news. Calling my provider gave me exactly what I expected - "you have no SLA and there is high load at the trunk right now, we can't do anything".

If I had a T1 pipe I'd have a dedicated trunk to myself (and the closet in my house) where I wouldn't experience these things.

If you're trading on the 1min and the guys smoking pot and beating off to 4k porn lag your connection you could miss a signal or get hosed. Due to the pandemic there is an unprecedented amount of coomers and consoomers gulping bandwidth consuming content down by the bucketful.

There is absolutely a use for them. That's why every business has them.

Luckily i do not have that problem where i live, i always have the advertised speed and connection rarely goes down.

I do trade from a laptop to one large monitor and i completely agree with you about overspending on the gear.

I just made sure my setup was safe for when internet or power goes out. My laptop battery is almost always fully charged. I have 2 internet connections, both attached to a small backup battery. One is an ethernet line and one is a 4G modem so i still have a connection if my regular connection goes down.

systematictrader · May 2, 2020

gaussian said:
On the weekends because of the coronavirus my shared internet (also known as your standard issue neighborhood trunk WAN you buy from Comcast or whatever) will go from the advertised speed of 300Mbps down to 490 kbps down. I lose 99% of my throughput immediately because 200 of the people trunked with me are watching 4k pornhub and netflix all night. There's no SLA for residential lines - the provider simply "tries their best" to match you. Last weekend at 11pm my internet became completely unusable even for checking the news. Calling my provider gave me exactly what I expected - "you have no SLA and there is high load at the trunk right now, we can't do anything".

If I had a T1 pipe I'd have a dedicated trunk to myself (and the closet in my house) where I wouldn't experience these things.

If you're trading on the 1min and the guys smoking pot and beating off to 4k porn lag your connection you could miss a signal or get hosed. Due to the pandemic there is an unprecedented amount of coomers and consoomers gulping bandwidth consuming content down by the bucketful.

There is absolutely a use for them. That's why every business has them.

Idk what side of the world u live on but i know day traders and they pay 49.99 for their internet

iam
Not day trading so i dont know

but if 400-600 a month for internet then 2k on equipment trading rig is not bad

systematictrader · May 2, 2020

RDK91 said:
Luckily i do not have that problem where i live, i always have the advertised speed and connection rarely goes down.

I do trade from a laptop to one large monitor and i completely agree with you about overspending on the gear.

I just made sure my setup was safe for when internet or power goes out. My laptop battery is almost always fully charged. I have 2 internet connections, both attached to a small backup battery. One is an ethernet line and one is a 4G modem so i still have a connection if my regular connection goes down.

You agree with him not overspend on a rig yet he pays 400-600 a month for internet
Lolz

p0box4 · May 2, 2020

systematictrader said:
You agree with him not overspend on a rig yet he pays 400-600 a month for internet
Lolz

And where did i agree with that? I don't know his situation ... If i would have a crappy internet connection where i live and that is what i would need to be able to trade and earn my living i might also do it, if there where no other solutions ..

You need a decent connection, you don't need a $2000 rig to trade.