New Start-Up Exchanges Should Help, Not Hurt CME Group

you take 5 es trades a day, 250 trading days, 1250 trades per year, about 5K commiss/fees a year per contract.

who is making 5k a year per contract at home? nobody.

and thats just break even. :wtf:
You’re saving a boatload since your mom doesn’t charge you for room,board and meatloaf.
 
You’re saving a boatload since your mom doesn’t charge you for room,board and meatloaf.

Found a profitable ES at home trader..

my bad, they do exist.

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Natural monopoly. There is no potential new product/market they haven't looked at and will know when it is ripe to launch.

CME is the evil empire.
 
Natural monopoly. There is no potential new product/market they haven't looked at and will know when it is ripe to launch.

CME is the evil empire.

Oh blah Xand. This micro CL they are coming out with? It was tried before, with same symbol, "MCL". It failed back then. They thought it was ripe to launch back then but it failed. So they are just trying it again.
 
Oh blah Xand. This micro CL they are coming out with? It was tried before, with same symbol, "MCL". It failed back then. They thought it was ripe to launch back then but it failed. So they are just trying it again.

Well, I didn't say all their products were winners. They tend to retry down the line with a full marketing campaign.

Killing the micro is a mystery to me.
 
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Killing the micro is a mystery to me.

I suppose it was one of those things where the instrument had so little volume it wasn't worth keeping on the books?

Like why did pork bellies go away? Sheesh, with all the talk of bacon over the years, why did they not bring that one back?

And I can bet you a hundred sim bux that there are two factors that brought this thing back. The launch (and great success) of the Equity index micros, and that petition that was floating around to bring micro CL to fruition.
 
99.9999% of traders can't overcome cme fees (and commish) over the long term. prove me wrong.

Micros are relatively expensive to trade but they are just a stepping stone to the bigger mini contracts

These days you can trade $300,000 worth of NQ for around $3 in fees and commissions.

A few years ago it was just $100,000 you could control for the same cost.

In a sense fees and commissions have fallen massively, for index futures anway.
 
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my point in all this is, if you're not a sophisticated hft firm and nobody is on this site,
you're giving yourselft zero chance to succeed trading cme products.

go with a zero commish broker and dont scalp for pennies and you can make
money.

utter BS. we are a relatively small algo shop, and make money trading CME products: metals, energy and currency.
 
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