New NASA Study Shows CO2 causes Cooling

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Quote from futurecurrents:

The fact is that CO2 levels have gone up 40% in the last 150 years due to man.

It's irrelevant. CO2 was a trace gas and it still is a trace gas. In the last 150 years it has gone from about 3 parts per 10,000 to 4 parts per 10,000.

CO2 is insignificant as the MIT atmospheric scientist says:

“The influence of mankind on climate is trivially true and numerically insignificant.”
~Richard Lindzen, MIT Atmospheric Physicist

Now let that sink in and let who said it sink in.

 

[jem]

The change in global surface temperature after the removal of the solar effect has shown zero correlation with CO2 but a nearly perfect linear correlation with CFCs - a correlation coefficient as high as 0.97."


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-05-global...ioxide.html#jCp

Quote from futurecurrents:

The fact is that CO2 levels have gone up 40% in the last 150 years due to man. CO2 is a greenhouse gas responsible for about15% of the earth's greenhouse effect. How could that NOT make temps go up? It's a very simple common sense thing......... that the fossil fuel industry doesn't want you to think about. The basics of the science is settled. 97% of the world's climatologists and all the world's science organizations are in agreement about it. The deniers just look foolish now.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

http://climate.nasa.gov/causes

http://www.skepticalscience.com/emp...ouse-effect.htm

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

 

[Eight]

hee hee.. GW alarmists love, well... alarmist stuff! Forget the truth, whoever wants all this alarm isn't about the truth. Al Gore makes % off of carbon credit exchanges, the Catholic Church and the UN have an issue they can rally troops around, environuts can use it in their onslaught against humans, etc..

Once again it's time to set our hair on fire and run in circles screaming "pee yourselves, the world is on fire!!!"

 

[futurecurrents]

The fact is that CO2 levels have gone up 40% in the last 150 years due to man. CO2 is a greenhouse gas responsible for about15% of the earth's greenhouse effect. How could that NOT make temps go up? It's a very simple common sense thing......... that the fossil fuel industry doesn't want you to think about. The basics of the science is settled. 97% of the world's climatologists and all the world's science organizations are in agreement about it. The deniers just look foolish now.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

http://climate.nasa.gov/causes

http://www.skepticalscience.com/emp...ouse-effect.htm

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

 

[pspr]

FC, you do know there is a rule here that Magna stated that you can't keep posting the same posts over and over in a thread, don't you?

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3809532&highlight=the+post#post3809532

 

[jem]

This study shows there is not correllation between CO2 and warming once you take out solar effects.

So, fc posts guessing man made CO2 causes warming are extreme bullshit.

There is not science showing man made co2 causes warming.
in fact there is no science showing we are warming outside of natural variability.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-05-global...ioxide.html#jCp

 

[futurecurrents]

In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions

Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. However global temperatures have been increasing. Since the sun and climate are going in opposite directions scientists conclude the sun cannot be the cause of recent global warming.
The only way to blame the sun for the current rise in temperatures is by cherry picking the data. This is done by showing only past periods when sun and climate move together and ignoring the last few decades when the two are moving in opposite direction.

Figure 1: Global temperature (red, NASA GISS) and Total solar irradiance (blue, 1880 to 1978 from Solanki, 1979 to 2009 from PMOD).

 

[Eight]

Quote from jem:

This study shows there is not correllation between CO2 and warming once you take out solar effects.

So, fc posts guessing man made CO2 causes warming are extreme bullshit.

There is not science showing man made co2 causes warming.
in fact there is no science showing we are warming outside of natural variability.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-05-global...ioxide.html#jCp

You mean that the Sun warms the Earth?!?? And when the average solar energy goes up the earth is warmer???!!? That simply cannot be, it doesn't fit the current GW models!

 

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<b>“The warming we have had the last 100 years is so small that, if we didn’t have meteorologists and climatologists to measure it, we wouldn’t have noticed it at all.”

Big Lie of global warming/climate change</b>

Despite President Obama’s incessant claims that the Earth is heating, scientists in both Russia and China have been publishing data from scientific studies disputing the Big Lie of global warming/climate change.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences—50,000 members strong—recently published “Climate Change Reconsidered and Climate Change Reconsidered: 2011 Interim Report”, two hefty volumes with more than 1,200 pages of peer-reviewed data on climate change published by The Heartland Institute in 2009 and 2011.

In May, Marc Morano, publisher of ClimateDepot.com and a former member of the staff of the U.S. Senate Environmental & Public Works Committee submitted written testimony to the committee.

“The scientific reality is that on virtually every claim—from A-Z—the claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing,” wrote Morano, “and in many instances the claims are moving in the opposite direction. The global warming movement is suffering the scientific death of a thousand cuts.”

“There is no evidence,” wrote Morano, “we are currently having any unusual weather.” Weather events such as the Moore, Oklahoma tornado and the sub-tropical storm Sandy that hit the northeast are normal occurrences despite the damage they inflicted.

In The Wall Street Journal in May, Princeton University physicist Dr. William Happer and NASA moonwalker and geologist, Dr. Harrison H. Schmitt wrote that “Thanks to the single-minded demonization of this natural and essential atmospheric gas by advocates of government control of energy production, the conventional wisdom about carbon dioxide is that it is a dangerous pollutant. That’s simply not the case.”

Literally thousands of scientists around the world have disputed the IPCC “science” and many former “warmists” have reversed their former beliefs. Dr. Lennart Bengtsson, a top Swedish climate scientist, formerly affiliated with the IPCC, said in February “We are creating great anxiety without it being justified…there are no indications that the warming is so severe that we need to panic…

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55939

 

[futurecurrents]

Since the hockey stick paper in 1998, there have been a number of proxy studies analysing a variety of different sources including corals, stalagmites, tree rings, boreholes and ice cores. They all confirm the original hockey stick conclusion: the 20th century is the warmest in the last 1000 years and that warming was most dramatic after 1920.