New NAFTA without Canada?

My sense is that Trump is finding that Tariffs are NOT the unilateral bludgeon he had hoped for;
Who knew....oh, only everyone who has studied economics in any detail in the past 50 years!
 
Apparently Mexico can but Canada cannot. And as a side note Mexico has some common ground qualms with Canada as well.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nafta-canada-mexico-dispute-1.4817612

I'd say Canada is dealing with it better then Mexico. We have clearly said no deal is better then a bad deal. Guess you didn't get the message, but you are welcome to sell all those services you sell in Canada to Mexico instead. If they need them.

Bottom line, if Americans like you want to penalize both Canadians and Americans in sectors like farming and energy then go for it. You can't touch IT it's an international sector with mostly border less success. I feel for those whose life will be put in turmoil by this but it's not my problem I have no role in these decisions.
 
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I'd say Canada is dealing with it better then Mexico. We have clearly said no deal is better then a bad deal. Guess you didn't get the message, but you are welcome to sell all those services you sell in Canada to Mexico instead. If they need them.
As someone who does own a business that sells services in Canada and has tried to sell services in Mexico....Canada and Mexico are pretty radically different markets. One would think that would go without saying, but...
 
Mexico made a deal already ... because they needed to. And the U.S made that deal to put pressure on Canada ... which doesn't necessarily "need" a deal.

Of course it would be good all around for all three countries to be on the same page. Like how it used to be under hmmmm ... NAFTA I think it was called.

A leftie populist is coming to power in Mexico Dec 1st and there is that little thing called mid terms we have coming Nov 6th that has the clock ticking on a deal if Dems win the House so .....

Let's see what the TV Reality Star has left of his Art of Deal "talents".
 
You can't touch IT it's an international sector

True, but Canada is like AA ball, fueling the bigs. Only the cream get to work in Silicon Valley. And that Microsoft satellite head office shifting to Toronto is a no growth move for Canada. It's moving from a suburb city, Mississauga.

Trump is after the Canadian Auto Sector. If Canada is silly enough not to sign on, it will lose big time (20% tariff). And if your comeback is typical lib Canadian "well it will hurt the U.S. too", for get it. The pain to the U.S. will be minimal for a very short period of time.

Am I replying to Crazy Maxine Waters:banghead: with this post?
 
True, but Canada is like AA ball, fueling the bigs. Only the cream get to work in Silicon Valley. And that Microsoft satellite head office shifting to Toronto is a no growth move for Canada. It's moving from a suburb city, Mississauga.

Trump is after the Canadian Auto Sector. If Canada is silly enough not to sign on, it will lose big time (20% tariff). And if your comeback is typical lib Canadian "well it will hurt the U.S. too", for get it. The pain to the U.S. will be minimal for a very short period of time.

Am I replying to Crazy Maxine Waters:banghead: with this post?

Toronto is the 4th largest IT hub in North America with the #1 growth rate this year. That's not AA ball buddy you must not work in IT.
 
Trump is after the Canadian Auto Sector. If Canada is silly enough not to sign on, it will lose big time (20% tariff). And if your comeback is typical lib Canadian "well it will hurt the U.S. too", for get it. The pain to the U.S. will be minimal for a very short period of time.
For sure, the Big 3 Canadian auto makers are going to get killed by this....wait a minute, who are the Canadian car companies again? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
 
Not really. Trudeau just rushed his Trade Minister down to Washington this afternoon. Third man out, weaker negotiating position now that Mexico and US have a fair bilateral deal that takes the auto sector away from Canada. Trudeau just lost any leverage he had left - he was too cute being the progressive light bringer.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-nafta-deal-possible-this-week-idUSKCN1LD1T4

A year later and Trump had to rescind his regressive steel tariffs with Canada because otherwise Canada would not sign the new NAFTA. So your claim of no leverage was complete bs. Nothing good occurred on either side of the border because of those tariffs.
 
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