New health-care law will destroy US economy?

Quote from unretired:

I am going to venture out on a limb here.

Healthcare will stimulate the economy. Or the appearance thereof.

I think it is pure evil, but that is another topic.
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I agree, will be stimulative but only because the REAL cost of this bill is likely to be 2-3T over 10 years, not 1T. The fact that the additional 1-2T will come in the form of debt will just add to our problems down the road and unfortunately we won't even get better access nor quality for the money wasted. Stimulative yes, but at terrible cost and very inefficient.

What is really going on is they are trying to turn the SSA in to an IRS like organization. A new avenue with which to control the sheeple.
 
In Western MA 16 primary care docs have shut their practices in the last 3 years. It was an under served area before that happened. Volume in area EDs has exploded. I doubt the extra 10% payment from medicare will do much to incentivize docs to come and work there unless they are coming from Bangalore.

Realistically medicare needs to raise rates 30% ED co pays need to go way up for cases that don't result in admissions, and urgent care reimbursement needs to be a nationwide coding category. If malpractice reform isn't in the cards then the above is one way to get better care for more people for less money.
 
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I agree, will be stimulative but only because the REAL cost of this bill is likely to be 2-3T over 10 years, not 1T. The fact that the additional 1-2T will come in the form of debt will just add to our problems down the road and unfortunately we won't even get better access nor quality for the money wasted. Stimulative yes, but at terrible cost and very inefficient.

What is really going on is they are trying to turn the SSA in to an IRS like organization. A new avenue with which to control the sheeple.
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Oh I agree ... it is absolutely nightmarish.
 
No. What is amazing is a drooling nutwing can use spell checker.


The reason ET has turned into a filthy loser-fest of tea gagging nutwings like you is because you losers finally figured out how to work the internets.

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These bastards are so dim witted that they missed the 3 decades of republican misrule, pedophilia and massive corruption they voted for. Now they're mad a black man is giving them the shaft.


The other frightening aspect is these nutwings are breeders. They breed faster than rabbits with the entire family of 100 living off welfare on my taxes. It's just too bad we are not allowed to euthanize these retarded low IQ losers. One can only hope that day arrives sooner than later.



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i find it simply amazing that you have 608 posts

someone should do some type of study on you or something
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Guns to healthcare town halls and spitting on members of congress.........
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

The government doesn't produce anything, it just "takes from one and distributes to another... while raking off a sizable vig for themselves".
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Where do you get this nonsense from?

Governments (and government owned corporations) produce all sorts of things eg

* Police forces which "produce" law and order enforcement

* In somewhere like UK, the NHS "produces" health care services

* Transport and transport infrastructure

* Social welfare services which "produce" such things as aged care.

* Maintenance and construction of all sorts of municipal facilities such as parks and gardens, public buildings and facilities.

* Education and publicly funded scientific research

* immigration, bio-security

* many others


If you shed all this nonsense "libertarian" ideology (which is actually just corporatist in substance) you might have a fighting chance of actually seeing what goes on in the real world.
 
governments don't produce anything in the sense that their efficiency ratio is very very small

in addition to the fact that almost all humans are animals, most are also sick in various ways including in that they take pleasure and pride in injecting suffering and unnecessary hardship into other people's lives, this is the reality regarding humans

the other fact is that government jobs attract some of the sickest and most stupidest people of the country, this is the nature of governments

since governments are a group of people who are supposed to run the country for the rest, and considering the facts regarding human nature and the nature of governments, more government reliance means eventually more suffering and pain both for you and your offspring, just because you don't realize this, doesn't mean it's not the case

"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise" -Adolf Hitler

100 years down the road, people are going to look back and laugh at us, for the stupid systems (governments) we created and so dearly defended

Quote from dcraig:

* In somewhere like UK, the NHS "produces" health care services
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haha, you consider UK a country, UK is the shittiest place possible, if I were to choose between eternal hell and having to live the rest of my life in that fucking country, I wouldn't think twice before choosing eternal hell
 
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