Nevada Primary - What’s your prediction?

This is one of the caucuses where Joe Biden might actually, squeak out a win. The reasons are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren has been given the kiss of death by Unite union with their Medicare for All threatening their hard won medical benefits from the casinos. They crossed the line in the sand. So, you have Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden left. Bloomberg is not even qualified and would not have his name on ballot. Joe Biden has some ties with the union so, might get enough union support to win this one. I think he loses though in South Carolina with Republicans all voting for Bernie Sanders.
 
There are pundits- dems at that- who argue that caucus systems are basically voter suppression systems. You know, it can take you 3-4 hours to get through that whole caucus process on primary election night. Grouping, regrouping. Persuading, being persuaded and then voting again.

You know, that's a lot when you have been working down at the machine shop all day and you have kids at home that need care while you and the wife are out dicking around with some caucus system where they can't even tally the votes in the end anyway.

Something to be said for that argument.
Yeah exactly, that and the fact that the choices all suck as there's no clear front-runner to get behind. I bet the turn-out is dismal in NV. SC might be another story though.
 
Yeah exactly, that and the fact that the choices all suck as there's no clear front-runner to get behind. I bet the turn-out is dismal in NV. SC might be another story though.

Hard to tell on the turnout there because health care is the number one issue for dems and the culinary union has ordered all of its members to show up and vote- maybe not in those exact words- against bernie who wants to take their health plans away.

Low turnout and dems have a mess, and high turnout and they have a mess.
 
Hard to tell on the turnout there because health care is the number one issue for dems and the culinary union has ordered all of its members to show up and vote- maybe not in those exact words- against bernie who wants to take their health plans away.

Low turnout and dems have a mess, and high turnout and they have a mess.
That's 60K workers too.
I looked up the 2016 #'s.... 60K (or even half) would have a huge impact. Only 80K total turned out in '16.


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Associated Press

Monday, Feb. 22, 2016 | 5:15 p.m.

Officials say about 84,000 Nevada Democrats participated in Saturday's caucuses, which is nearly 30 percent fewer than in 2008.

The Nevada State Democratic Party said Monday that there were about 84,000 caucus-goers in their Democratic nomination contest, which is the first in the West and third in the nation.

About 14,000 of those voters registered the day of.

But in 2008, there were 118,000 Democratic voters who caucused, with about 30,000 registering the same day.

State party officials also said 65 percent of Saturday's participants were first-time caucus-goers and 41 percent of them were minorities.

Hillary Clinton definitively won the Nevada caucus this time around, but in 2008, she got the popular vote while then-rival and future president Barack Obama won the delegate count.
 
This is one of the caucuses where Joe Biden might actually, squeak out a win. The reasons are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren has been given the kiss of death by Unite union with their Medicare for All threatening their hard won medical benefits from the casinos. They crossed the line in the sand. So, you have Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden left. Bloomberg is not even qualified and would not have his name on ballot. Joe Biden has some ties with the union so, might get enough union support to win this one. I think he loses though in South Carolina with Republicans all voting for Bernie Sanders.


I don't think Joe is going to get ahead of Bernie or even come close to that in Nevada. But yeh, your point has merit to keep him up in top three somewhere which would a step for Joe of late. He will talk big about that and about how he is on a roll. And Joe does have a base of support which will keep him going through SuperT anyway. It's just that the while gig about being the only who can beat trump and that he is the frontrunner is up and that was his calling-card for even entering campaign. Same with S.C., I have never said that Joe wont win there but this is supposed to be his redemption where he knocks it out of the park. The jewel in his crown. Ahhh, no. He will do well in a state where he needs to do excellent. Just more womp....womp...womp.

The good news is that SuperTues is just a couple weeks away. Tea-leaf reading corpses is getting tiresome.
 
My thinking is a dead cat bounce for Warren. She has to be pushing to get something on the board. Her Waterloo will be South Carolina.

Buttigieg is untested outside of high-high white states. I would be interested to see if he makes inroads with lower income whites and minorities.

Minorities aren't ready for a gay POTUS, that's if they even show up to vote for a primary race
 
Caucuses should be outlawed. Look at the change from first vote, to final vote, to delegate percentage:

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Nevada has a large hispanic population and Sanders has been actively courting Hispanic Democrats since his loss to Clinton in 2016. The Sanders people did some math and felt like if Sanders had higher Hispanic support he could have won the dem nomination in 2016.

Anyway, in 2020 we are about to find out If Sanders has a true coalition or if he stalls out at ~26ish percent.

Also, Biden needs to show up here. Fourth place ain’t going to cut it. Worst he can do is a very strong third. He has to show he has some support among whites and Hispanics. He has to be able to compete in a state like Nevada if he wants to at least appear viable. I’m not feeling hopeful for Joe.

So:

1. Sanders (<26%)
2. Biden (>20%)
3. Warren (>15%)
Pretty good call picking Biden to place. Gold star 4u.

**** Biden I meant. (I initially wrote Warren. I edited it.)

You got Pokey but no Booty?
I thought we pretty much stuck a fork in Pokey.
I gotta think Booty will make the top 3.

I get a milk-bone for calling Booty in the money at least.
 
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