Neuroshell day trader

DiceAreCast said:
I don't think it's arrogant. It's smart thinking and a healthy dose of scepticism. I traded at several large investment banks and hedge funds over the past 20 years from exotic rates derivatives, to correlation products to equity derivatives, and developed and tested thousands of algorithmic strategies of various holding periods. With a bit of research you could have found out that even 10 years ago you could have written Monte Carlo simulators with discretizations of your choice or used various ML libraries to achieve more customization and solve more problems for free than with this piece of junk. What this crap offers can be seen by everyone on its web page. Same algo development with technical indicators as every other platform, then throw in a few neuro network buzzwords (nothing in detail explained) and of course a genetic parameter optimizer. All else is just add-on bs. This app is a laughable joke especially in today's world. I can set you up with a 100 times more capable development and testing platform for neural networks all completely free. Pytorch and tensorflow offer it all open source.

How is that for a little context to explain that one does not have to have tried everything in order to qualify to judge it. Or do you poke needles into your veins to try what all this talk about heroin is about?
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It is very arrogant. Don't confused it with a healthy dose of skepticism (not scepticism). And you are right, you could have gone out and use many of the python libraries, R, matlab the list goes on to be able to develop and test trading strategies. But you have to know the programming languages. So to give you a little context, when I was a math major my programming skills were lacking. Joined an investment club at my university where automated trading was the focus. I didn't know where to start, found neuroshell trader, and started to use it. Like I said steep learning curve, and not for everyone. But it worked for me. I went on to pay for my senior year AND part of grad school with no loans, not borrowing money from my parents etc. When I finished my masters in mathematical and computation finance, my programming skills were light years a head as well as understanding the quant workflow. So for those who don't have that education background or your 20 years of experience then this CAN work for them if they put the effort in. But it is highly arrogant for someone to say it doesn't work.

Not sure why you want to bring heroin into it because your example doesn't work at all. There is science behind what heroin does to you, the receptors it binds to, the physiological effects etc. A better example would be for someone to say heroin doesn't get them high, so it doesn't work at all. Yet, others say that it does. Your example, does not work for your argument at all.

You have been in finance almost longer than I have been alive, yet still can't construct an argument properly. Also make claims about how long accounts were open, without even doing a little research. Something so simple was over looked yet I have accept you "years" of experience. GTFO
 
My example was perfectly valid in the context you created. You claimed one is disqualified from commenting on a product one has not tried oneself. I disproved your point with a counterexample. We do not need to try everything to develop a sound knowledge and understanding of whether a product is worth consuming and/or paying a price for.

There is science behind that crap applications like this do not work. And tons of empirical evidence. You can be as angry as you want because someone talks down the product you try to sell but I believe unassuming buyers and beginners should be aware of the pitfalls and empty promises those software applications make.

I apologized for not having looked more closely about when you opened your account. Seems you have a hard time staying on the actual topic and rather look to attack the messenger. I am criticizing the product you are selling, not you. And you are angry someone trash-talked your product (for good reason). I think that is the reason you started to attack me.

Seanye_West said:
It is very arrogant. Don't confused it with a healthy dose of skepticism (not scepticism). And you are right, you could have gone out and use many of the python libraries, R, matlab the list goes on to be able to develop and test trading strategies. But you have to know the programming languages. So to give you a little context, when I was a math major my programming skills were lacking. Joined an investment club at my university where automated trading was the focus. I didn't know where to start, found neuroshell trader, and started to use it. Like I said steep learning curve, and not for everyone. But it worked for me. I went on to pay for my senior year AND part of grad school with no loans, not borrowing money from my parents etc. When I finished my masters in mathematical and computation finance, my programming skills were light years a head as well as understanding the quant workflow. So for those who don't have that education background or your 20 years of experience then this CAN work for them if they put the effort in. But it is highly arrogant for someone to say it doesn't work.

Not sure why you want to bring heroin into it because your example doesn't work at all. There is science behind what heroin does to you, the receptors it binds to, the physiological effects etc. A better example would be for someone to say heroin doesn't get them high, so it doesn't work at all. Yet, others say that it does. Your example, does not work for your argument at all.

You have been in finance almost longer than I have been alive, yet still can't construct an argument properly. Also make claims about how long accounts were open, without even doing a little research. Something so simple was over looked yet I have accept you "years" of experience. GTFO
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DiceAreCast said:
My example was perfectly valid in the context you created. You claimed one is disqualified from commenting on a product one has not tried oneself. I disproved your point with a counterexample. We do not need to try everything to develop a sound knowledge and understanding of whether a product is worth consuming and/or paying a price for.

There is science behind that crap applications like this do not work. And tons of empirical evidence. You can be as angry as you want because someone talks down the product you try to sell but I believe unassuming buyers and beginners should be aware of the pitfalls and empty promises those software applications make.

I apologized for not having looked more closely about when you opened your account. Seems you have a hard time staying on the actual topic and rather look to attack the messenger. I am criticizing the product you are selling, not you. And you are angry someone trash-talked your product (for good reason). I think that is the reason you started to attack me.
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I never attacked you. You started with a false claim. Yet, you are trying to play victim. And yet, your arrogance comes through yet again. You claim that something doesn't work. Some might say its impossible to scalp NG does that mean its true just because they can't make it work? Of course not!

Anyway, I refuse to argue with a 50 year old man about something that has nothing to do with him. This is why I said go back to the politics forum where you can argue about Joe's polices.
 
I claimed this software package is absolute garbage. And it is. I explained at length why. Then you questioned my comparison that one does not need to try everything to make an educated and intelligent inference. You questioned the comparison then I again explained at length why the comparison is valid in this context. Now you bullshit around about an irrelevant issue. There is enough empirical evidence on the internet on this software package to make an informed decision. It's just that you are the seller here and sell a crap product. Good luck finding a dummy willing to pay for this. I hope you don't have the same crappy attitude towards your senior bosses at work who have decades more experience than you do. It would cut your career very short. Green behind the ears but arrogant beyond belief. I am out of here.

Seanye_West said:
I never attacked you. You started with a false claim. Yet, you are trying to play victim. And yet, your arrogance comes through yet again. You claim that something doesn't work. Some might say its impossible to scalp NG does that mean its true just because they can't make it work? Of course not!

Anyway, I refuse to argue with a 50 year old man about something that has nothing to do with him. This is why I said go back to the politics forum where you can argue about Joe's polices.
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Is there a nice video tutorial? Last time I tried it it was really really difficult to use as the user interface was designed during windows xp era
 
The entire software's premise is built on some outdated machine learning techniques, techniques that have been refuted in academic literature and research as useless in predicting financial time series.
 
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