Negativity + Stupidity= Horrible January 2008

Quote from Specterx:

It's just the business cycle... the economy and the stock market will come back sooner or later. In the meantime you can be damn sure I tell my friends & family to be really careful about buying anything, because I feel it's likely that the market will fall further and don't want to see them lose their money. What do I gain by going against reality (as I see it)?

If you want an enemy, attack the media that tell people to put 90% of their life savings in stocks because the market always goes up, and the politicians and snake-oil salesmen that push 401(k)s on people in the first place. I saw an article on CNNMoney the other day saying this was a great time to buy - are you kidding me? Stock speculation is a complex, risky and uncertain business, and like anything else you shouldn't play the game unless you know what you're doing and are prepared to lose.
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Stock speculation is a complex risky game , disciplined investing is not. Using options to further reduce risks is a craft that you need to master.

Things are not as bad as they were to look like and January 2008 was a bloodbath. Just look at the charts of mutual funds and see they are all trading below 50 day and 200 moving averages. They have been hurt with 20- 40% declines.

But with that comes the opportunity, and if fear grips you real hard , your losses become permanent losses. You will never recover.
 
Quote from Cyclikill:

heh heh.. ooh creative and original :p
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Are you a professional disruptor? You must be..since you have contributed nothing of substance. You feel powerless, you feel inferior, you feel inadequte, and you feel you can't stand up to anyone?

I have never seen such depressed, spaced out, lagging, doom and gloom bunch in my life!

Life has been one heck of a failure, last month for you, wasn't it dear Mr. Marooned Monkeybrains?

Am I right?
 
Quote from day7793:

Are you a professional disruptor? You must be..since you have contributed nothing of substance. You feel powerless, you feel inferior, you feel inadequte, and you feel you can't stand up to anyone?

I have never seen such depressed, spaced out, lagging, doom and gloom bunch in my life!
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Tissue? :p
 
Quote from day7793:

You probably think ( wrongly) that housing and real estate will never come back?
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Poor assumption...

If a business is losing money of course its underlying value in the market will suffer. Unless the US goes belly up of course housing will recover as will banking. It's just a matter of when, and people are placing their bets accordingly by selling or buying. That's what markets are for.

And if you are optimistic and positive as you claim to be you should be revelling in the fact you can buy such great housing and financial stocks at these low prices.

I now officially can't believe you are this illogical so am down to two theories on the purpose of these recent threads:

1. Mental/emotional weakness
2. A big financial loss in January (which I take no pleasure in...I've been there)

(or a combination of both)
 
Quote from day7793:

Are you a professional disruptor? You must be..since you have contributed nothing of substance. You feel powerless, you feel inferior, you feel inadequte, and you feel you can't stand up to anyone?

I have never seen such depressed, spaced out, lagging, doom and gloom bunch in my life!

Life has been one heck of a failure, last month for you, wasn't it dear Mr. Marooned Monkeybrains?

Am I right?
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I'm not a psychologist, but I did take Psych101 years ago. Isn't this called "projection"?
 
I guess economic cycles are a thing of the past? I sure don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when the fed has to cut rates 125 bps in less than 2 weeks. You are sounding like the folks who think shorting is unamerican. Shorts play a integral roll in the markets, and they are the ones who put the end to selloffs. If you don't want to trade that side of the market, fine, but please get down from your soapbox and stop deriding those who do.
 
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I guess economic cycles are a thing of the past? I sure don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling when the fed has to cut rates 125 bps in less than 2 weeks. You are sounding like the folks who think shorting is unamerican. Shorts play a integral roll in the markets, and they are the ones who put the end to selloffs. If you don't want to trade that side of the market, fine, but please get down from your soapbox and stop deriding those who do.
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Personally shorting is fraught with landmines. Its very very hard to bring the market down when all the forces want it to go up.
Mutual Funds, pension funds and retail public .They all shore it up. You are constantly fighting a battle. Because they dont want losses in the wake.

Stocks can only go down so much and so does the market. You can't take it to zero. Very little profits compared to bull markets where sky is the limits and gains of 100% plus to the upside.

But our negative crowd on ET is a permabear disguised as a Trader and they can't help themselves, they only know one way to trade, and that is down, and they suffer losses everyday. Hence this complete doom and gloom and overall negativity and pessimism.
 
whatever, man you just don't get it. I guess you can be Captain America, while us lowly traders are scum. I still will sleep well every night.
 
wow, talk about jumping to conclusions! Since YOU are angry that the markets have fallen, you assume that people are losing money. I mean, how can one profit when the markets falls, everyone is always long right?

Wake up man, there exists a world unknown to you, where traders understand the context in which they are in and take advantage of whatever the markets provide. Permabears are idiots and so are permabulls. Both of you are MORONS. Its not about choosing a side and going down with the ship if things dont play out right, its about making money! Dont lose sight of this fact. It seems to have attached yourself to the long side and cant stand the fact that your perfect little world had been rocked lately.


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But our negative crowd on ET is a permabear disguised as a Trader and they can't help themselves, they only know one way to trade, and that is down, and they suffer losses everyday. Hence this complete doom and gloom and overall negativity and pessimism.
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