Neeed Help i'm a newbie

We can put up some P, V charts as the day passes and fill in each move on the failure preventer illustration. After a few charts are up we can see how they work through "experience".

As a person acquires more and more skill he trades more frequently by moving to faster and faster fractals.
 
While this may be another trolling thread like the "Trading is not a Business you will all fail" thread, I at least appreciate the approach of this thread.

That said, I think the most important thing to understand in this endeavor is that unlike almost any other pursuit in life, no one who has what you want is incentivized to help improve your chances of survival or accelerate your learning curve.

Please really consider the implications of that paragraph before choosing to move forward. Consider a profession where everyone is hiding their valuable knowledge and most discoveries of significance are kept secret/proprietary as long as they work. Consider a profession where I am incentivized to mislead you (one way or the other) so I can take your money.

The path is very treacherous and very lonely, there are certainly easier ways to make money and own a nice car.
 
Quote from never lose ever:

can you explain how to use that chart you provided please?


Jack just nailed another live one!!!!

ET must be like the House of Pancakes for Jack. :D :D
 
Quote from never lose ever:

Hi I'm very intrested in becomming a full flegded trader what are the things i will need to start off my little venture into the world of finance (tips, strategies, computing software/systems...?)

I really am ambitious and I need 45k for my car..

Also I'm considering purchasing a new macbook 13in laptop and iPhone. I want to use my summer life guarding money to buy these items and use the rest of my money as capital for my up and coming investment account

Translation: Idiot highschooler who knows shit about shit, wants to go diving for clams in a shark-infested lagoon. Why? So he can he don some shades and play Gordon Gekko to his (even dumber) highschool friends.

Here's some real honest advice: You know nothing. You're ambition counts for shit. You've got ZERO relevant knowledge. That my colleagues would even waste their time with your post, makes me seriously question their judgment.

Popping boners and zits in algebra class doesn't qualify as life experience. 5,000-10,000 hours. The equivalent is 6 years of highschool. Of your own free time. Good luck, sparky.
 
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As a person acquires more and more skill he trades more frequently by moving to faster and faster fractals.

dumbest quote i heard all week .
 
Quote from jack hershey:

We can put up some P, V charts as the day passes and fill in each move on the failure preventer illustration. After a few charts are up we can see how they work through "experience".

As a person acquires more and more skill he trades more frequently by moving to faster and faster fractals.

Are you for real? Or are you a regular guest on the remake of Fantasy Island?
 
Quote from TD80:

While this may be another trolling thread like the "Trading is not a Business you will all fail" thread, I at least appreciate the approach of this thread.

That said, I think the most important thing to understand in this endeavor is that unlike almost any other pursuit in life, no one who has what you want is incentivized to help improve your chances of survival or accelerate your learning curve.

Trading is like driving a car. There is no mystery and everyone helps anyone else to learn to drive. You do it every day by your example.

What is the incentive for helping others learn to drive well: everyone is better off.


Please really consider the implications of that paragraph before choosing to move forward. Consider a profession where everyone is hiding their valuable knowledge and most discoveries of significance are kept secret/proprietary as long as they work.

The principles of trading are well known and unchanging. Anyone has the opportunity to take the market's offer any time they wish. There is zero competition for taking the market's offer.

It is fun to read how a person is hiding his secrets and valuable discoveries. Try telling the SEC or IRS what you are doing that raised their ire. There is NO way these guys can understand anything much less regulate anything. Look at the track record of the financial industry; it is zilch.



Consider a profession where I am incentivized to mislead you (one way or the other) so I can take your money.

You may be misguided. Jot down a list of anything you ever did that fooled anyone and made you money

The path is very treacherous and very lonely,(Have lunch with Covel, furtively) there are certainly easier ways to make money and own a nice car.

This is a good point for the poster to take seriously. For others who can use thier minds, critically, it is like taking candy away from an ET poster



VERY funny post.
 
Quote from JoePaterno:

Are you for real? Or are you a regular guest on the remake of Fantasy Island?

Congratulations on your 100th post.

To find out get a pic of me and watch Fantasy Island. Let others know what you find out in future posts.
 
My experience working with some very successful individual traders and a few funds has lead me to a couple of conclusions:

1. An Ivy League education does not make a good trader by default. It might get him or her hired, but it does not mean that they will be good traders.

2. Successful traders do not necessarily trade more frequently; in fact, if anything, they become more selective and their timeframe sampling periods and holding timeframes get stretched out.

3. It would shock 95% of the ET forum readers at the simplicity and purity that many really successful (7 and 8 figure annual producers) traders have in the marketplace. Technical sophistication and automation does not guarantee a successful P&L.

4. Jack Schwaeger's "Market Wizards" series has done alot more harm than good in terms of educational material. The reader is left with a mental image ingrained with high risk/high reward strategies that in reality do not work for most traders.

5. Build consistency, and then gradually and methodically lever that consistency. Consistent traders can get money thrown at them, and lots of it.
 
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We can put up some P, V charts as the day passes and fill in each move on the failure preventer illustration. After a few charts are up we can see how they work through "experience".

As a person acquires more and more skill he trades more frequently by moving to faster and faster fractals.


I did what I said I would do.

Go here to find four charts and a few failure preventers completed for those fully annotated charts.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2920793#post2920793


fortunately there are two more charts you can annotate and then fill in the failure preventers for.

When you have those done you will have a handfull of sheets that show you how to move to making 20,000 a day by doing 10 4point trades a day on the ES. This is 100,000 a week and usually is enough for most people's life style needs.

Please keep all this a secret so that no one else is able to make 100,000 a week after three weeks of trading.
 
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