Yeah, when you get LOSING percentages under 8%, you can then back test at how well you do averaging down. I have cut back levels of ave down, but I have increased size to equal out, so I do minus' 1, 2, 3, 5 so if all get filled, I have 5 levels of prices and beauty of it all, if time to lock in one tick, breakeven plus one tick trades is only for original entry and rest I get plus 2, 3, 4, 6, so breakeven plus one tick trades for me is very profitable, so me getting sixteen plus one tick trades from the outside is crappy day, I usually do very well.