Need some input from proprietary traders

Quote from SWScapital:

I was approached with this deal but the person told me he was flexible if I had other ways to structure. Of course I would get it all in contract form. Sounds sweet to me...looking for some thoughts or improvements to go back to him with

equity prop position, 1mm BP however you see fit to trade it(with more provided if performance warrants),
0-10k monthly draw (you decide how much and even if you want it on a month to month basis), end of month profits will cover draw and anything left over gets split 50/50 with firm, health benefits, you cover comm @ .02 per share (kind of high but would not be doing much daytrading at all), not on the hook for losses but you get turned off at 50k drawdown from initial 1mm.

thoughts?

Have a question is the commisson 2 cents per share or 2 tenths of a penny per share??????????
 
Part of the reason it is diificult to get backing without these ridiuculous $10000 payments is the idiotic statements here.

"play big"
"swing for the fences"
"no risk to you" etc etc etc

what about professional integrity and respect for just how diificult the business is. If these firms only hired people that they truly believe could make money they would not be in business.
 
Quote from joeyata1:

how anyone can pay .0075 and put up 10k of there own money with anyone is beyond me. don you got to be kidding saying guys are paying .0075 putting up 10k of there own money. your rates were .0075 4 years ago. everyone else has cut there commissions in 1/2 and you're still at .0075. i take my hat off to you that you can still have good business with those commissions. 1 million shares at .0075 is $7500 vs 1 million shares at .0025 is $2500. thats 60k a year difference and impossible to overcome. don how many traders does bright have in offices and remote. i bet you have 300 or so at least. don in your opninion how many full time hard core day traders are in the country including prop at offices and remote. i'm thinking around 3000.

It seems to me that the point that you and others consistently miss about Bright is that he provides capital. Berating Bright about his commissions completely misses part of the picture. Now, what the proper cost of that capital "should be" can certainly be argued. Perhaps Brights cost of capital is "too high". If so joeyata, perhaps you and truthteller should get together and fund some traders yourself.

Disclosure: I don't trade at Bright, don't know Bright, trade my own capital and have for years, and don't know all the in's and out's of Bright. But why not have a little balance here in these threads? Capital is worth something.

OldTrader
 
That's true. I'm paying almost double the commission rate at my current firm than I could find elsewhere. But I don't haggle and I don't rock the boat because they give me massive leverage and let me do whatever I want and charge a very reasonable rate for it.

Sure I could save a few thousand a month in lower rates somewhere else, but it would cost me several thousand more in lost profit opportunity and higher carrying costs. The whole package is what matters.
 
Quote from cstu:

Part of the reason it is diificult to get backing without these ridiuculous $10000 payments is the idiotic statements here.

"play big"
"swing for the fences"
"no risk to you" etc etc etc

what about professional integrity and respect for just how diificult the business is. If these firms only hired people that they truly believe could make money they would not be in business.


Good point.

One of my long term goals in the trading arena is that when I make it big...i.e 1MM++ a year in profits. Is to start my own fully backed group. I really want to train and fund new prospects. Not some snake oil shill book seller seminar type....but me and 5-10 traders in my office trading on my coin. I was able to cut my teeth in this biz when I had no experience or money because someone gave me a chance...and I hope to do that for others someday.
 
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