Need advice on buying a Workstation

Thanks Scat & all. I was thinking in terms of 5820 getting outdated soon.
Also heard that NVMe are great for OS booting time & may be good for tick charts ?
3660 has 3 slots for NVMe.

What can you tell from following in 3660 pdf ? Are they x16 full length ? Asking because they let you configure two Nvidia T-600 cards which requires two full length x16 slots.

● One PCIe x16 Gen5 (discrete graphics card only)
● One PCIe x4 Gen4
● One PCIe x4 Gen3

I can't find 3660 motherboard layout anywhere so can't tell anything about these slots.

Dell does rip you off on HDDs & RAM & I don't know what the hell their Ultra drives are, which are 4 times more expensive.

My monitors have DVI & VGA cables support.

Scat, are you able to run Win-10 OR Win-11 on your 5810 ?
 
qqq said:
Thanks Scat & all. I was thinking in terms of 5820 getting outdated soon.
Also heard that NVMe are great for OS booting time & may be good for tick charts ?
3660 has 3 slots for NVMe.

What can you tell from following in 3660 pdf ? Are they x16 full length ? Asking because they let you configure two Nvidia T-600 cards which requires two full length x16 slots.

● One PCIe x16 Gen5 (discrete graphics card only)
● One PCIe x4 Gen4
● One PCIe x4 Gen3

I can't find 3660 motherboard layout anywhere so can't tell anything about these slots.

Dell does rip you off on HDDs & RAM & I don't know what the hell their Ultra drives are, which are 4 times more expensive.

My monitors have DVI & VGA cables support.

Scat, are you able to run Win-10 OR Win-11 on your 5810 ?
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1. Yes, 5820 is getting a little long in the tooth. That's why I suggested "5810... on the cheap... for now". The 5820 is a little "aged" in terms of "newer, faster, better", but it's 100% good all around for trading.... and will remain so for the life of the hardware. (The 5820 is a big "jump up" from prior. When the successor model comes out, it should be a "hum-dinger"!)

2. Actually, NVME is NOT great for boot time... about the same as SATA III. Seems the bottleneck is actually the CPU, not the drive. NVME is GREAT when working with especially large single files.... video editing and the like.

3. As I mentioned before, the 3660 has only ONE x16 slot. You need 3. You cannot run 2x T600 cards on a 3660. You can find all about parameters by searching "Dell 3660 Specs".

4. Yes, Dell is expensive for ALL upgrades. Suggest buying the "basic" and then getting additional RAM and drives online.

5. The quad-port video cards nowdays have 4x, DP connectors. You can get DVI-DP adapters but will likely be limited to "HD resolution"... 1920x1200" maximum. DVI is fading into the dust. At some point you'll have to upgrade to DP.

6. I run on W10. My 5810s are not compatible with W11, so they say... or maybe it's just my CPU...Xeon E5-1620 V3? I dunno. Don't care. I'm sure I'd like W11 even less than W10. :)
 
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Scataphagos said:
1. Yes, 5820 is getting a little long in the tooth. That's why I suggested "5810... on the cheap... for now". The 5820 is a little "aged" in terms of "newer, faster, better", but it's 100% good all around for trading.... and will remain so for the life of the hardware.

2. Actually, NVME is NOT great for boot time... about the same as SATA III. Seems the bottleneck is actually the CPU, not the drive. NVME is GREAT when working with especially large single files.... video editing and the like.

3. As I mentioned before, the 3660 has only ONE x16 slot. You need 3. You cannot run 2x T600 cards on a 3660. You can find all about parameters by searching "Dell 3660 Specs".

4. Yes, Dell is expensive for ALL upgrades. Suggest buying the "basic" and then getting additional RAM and drives online.

5. The quad-port video cards nowdays have 4x, DP connectors. You can get DVI-DP adapters but will likely be limited to "HD resolution"... 1920x1200" maximum. DVI is fading into the dust. At some point you'll have to upgrade to DP.

6. I run on W10. My 5810s are not compatible with W11, so they say... or maybe it's just my CPU...Xeon E5-1620 V3? I dunno. Don't care. I'm sure I'd like W11 even less than W10. :)
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wow, you are computer expert. I should consult you before I bought my amd5950x.
 
Scat, tried & tried finding specs for 3660 especially how many full length slots are there before posting here & came across a pdf that has a confusing specs that I posted as below :
● One PCIe x16 Gen5 (discrete graphics card only)
● One PCIe x4 Gen4
● One PCIe x4 Gen3

This shows only one x16 slot but when you try to configure 3660 on Dell site, it does allow you to have 2 Nvidia T600 cards. I posted the link earlier.

You are right about 5820 probably the only choice. Back to the drawing board.
 
qqq said:
This shows only one x16 slot but when you try to configure 3660 on Dell site, it does allow you to have 2 Nvidia T600 cards. I posted the link earlier.
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Misinfo on Dell's part. I don't know of any modern video cards that are other than x16.
 
Hi Scat Thank you for the help.
Since I have to go back to 5820 with Xeon W-2235, 16 GB DDR4, 2933MHz RAM, 3 x NVIDIA T-600, does NVMe SSD help in anyway with charting application that stores tick data in application folder on C: drive & I have to very often reconstruct Random Tick charts from it's pool of tick data?

As you said NVMe doesn't help in boot time & Dell doesn't offer regular SSDs, Sata 7200 or 5400 rpm is the only choice I have. I don't play games or Video editing etc so Tick charts is the only fun thing for me besides watching news.

Sata 7200 rpm is pain in %^&* when it comes to loading Win-7 on my current Dell T-7500 with Xeon E5645 @ 2.4 GHz.

Also constructing tick charts also takes time & I don't have choice of minute charts in most cases. Seconds charts are also constructed from ticks pool.

If I go for NVMe, one of the 16X ( wired as x8 ) will be taken by NVMe card so will the 3rd graphics card run on 16X ( wired as x4 ) ?

Tahnk You all.
 
Working with tics is a challenge. I tried it once years ago. It was too manic and had my CPU humping 100% and the cooling fans on high all the time. Have you tried 10 second charts?

I don't know if NVME will help retrieve your data faster. It would if the data were all in one big file, but I doubt that's the case.

A graphics card will run in an x4 slot.
 
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