Nearly Half of Black Men at New York City Found Jobless

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Each political party has their own favorite minority people. The Democrats favor the Blacks and the Republicans, who are employers, favor Mexicans. Why is that? Mexicans work, they have family values, they are not looking for a handout or a favored position and they will work two jobs if that is what it takes to make ends meet for their family. I live in Southern California, I speak Spanish as a second language and I work, and I know lots of employers, believe me I know what I am talking about here. Resent against Caucasians is not a big thing with Mexicans, not withstanding that most of the illegals are Indians.

I work in a high tech corporation with 1500 employees at my location. I can count the black employees on one hand. Among that small number are the most resentful, uncooperative, "you owe me because the Democrats said so" people in the whole place. The Democrats have made blacks the biggest enemies of the greater American culture and until blacks get over the resent they are going NOWHERE.

Sociological studies show that the most racially prejudiced people in the USA, by far, are the Blacks. Why is that? Because it is encouraged. The Democrats have raised "get corporate whitey" to a political platform. Now I want somebody to tell me how a small culture that hates the greater culture around it and insists on not joining the greater culture socially, with the greater culture providing nearly all the jobs, is going to make it?

Max
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I agree....
 
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The educational system in the inner cities is still too rooted to the ideological iceberg that "you can be anyone you want to be." True. No one will deny that black physicians and attorneys are more and more common place. But reliance on the philosophy that life is an economic all or nothing afflicts both white traders and black teenagers.

Many Eastern European immigrants come to the States from well educated backgrounds. Any of us who live in NYC or Chicago find remarkable the lofty university degrees and prior work history of even the humblest taxi driver. Yet when is the last time anyone has gotten into a Chicago cab that's being driven by a 25yo American black. immigrants have found that changing a valve, laying some tile, cooking on a hot grill....all provide relatively good incomes. In the U.S. vocational is a dirty word.

I remember reading a story a few years back about a Chicagoan who was upset that his grandson had heard from his teacher, "you don't have to shine shoes." That student's grandfather was shining at O'Hare to the tune of 60k a year! Until we foster a society that deems it noble to work as a salesperson, or a nurse, or a delivery driver, instead of glorifying wealth and consumption 24/7 we're going no where. I truly hope for a 1930's type depression someday just to see how the excess's can be washed out of our (mine) materialistic little brains.
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great post...good points.....
 
Not to get too far off topic...but ElCubano, why the hell do most Cuban-Americans tend to support the draconian economic sanctions against Cuba??? It's done nothing to overthrow Fidel, and it just makes the lives of your brothers in Cuba much harder.
 
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Not to get too far off topic...but ElCubano, why the hell do most Cuban-Americans tend to support the draconian economic sanctions against Cuba??? It's done nothing to overthrow Fidel, and it just makes the lives of your brothers in Cuba much harder.
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I totally agree with you....it is absurd and in fact helps fidel keep his grip...not only does it hurt my brothers it hurts the US farmers as well....I have no idea why some exiles dont see this...peace
 
"There is nothing more painful to me than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then to look around and see someone white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson, 1993


Racism comes in all colors.

peace

axeman
 
Black people will not accept the charge that they are racist concerning whites. Their position is that racism is a majority racial group exerting power over a minority racial group and denying opportunity to the minority group. By this criterion, blacks cannot be racist against whites.

The charge of reverse racism, of course, is a description of the contempt and anger that whites (accurately) feel many blacks have toward them, as well as the white person's physical fear of the black man/woman on the street.

Africian Americans have had enormous impact on the social, cultural, and political fabric of the country, and I feel that thier potential talents and contributions to this country have yet to be anywhere near fully realized.

Still, the black community has to heal itself of so many defective and delinquint behaviors that plague it, especially in the area of rasing children and creating stable families. Without a stable family, their cycle of missed opportunity will scarcely ever end.

 
Black people will not accept the charge that they are racist concerning whites. Their position is that racism is a majority racial group exerting power over a minority racial group and denying opportunity to the minority group. By this criterion, blacks cannot be racist against whites...
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As long as individual A continues to deny the rights of individual B...

its pretty silly to expect individual B to not expect change nor to be aggressive in getting that change.

Do you know how many ethnic groups in the world that are oppressed today...do you know how many times in the last 10 years that someone in power has attempted to "terminate" a different ethnicity to their own?

To call a group in general terms that has been oppressed or abused as racist while there are a few individuals still walking around with the protection of freedom to say they should be exterminated...

is a bit silly to me.

Here's something to thing about...when I was growning up...there was this bully that put the fear in all the neighborhood kids...

To write about the kids inability to get over something while not discussing how to stop the bullying is an insult to those kids.

I raise this issue because once there was a street meeting by the parents about what was occurring in the neighborhood...

After about an hours or so of discussion about how the kids should just walk away, ignore, tell the parents when this other bully kid did something...

One parent said..."we are going about this in the wrong way...why don't we just stop the bully because its in insult to the kids to tell them what they should be doing while we say nothing to the bully".

You know what...the parents all marched over to the house of the bully kid...they had a vivid discussion with his parents...

Basically, if your kid attacks my kid again...we will hold you responsible and take appropriate action.

Guess what...the bullying stopped and their were no more discussions about how the oppressed kids in the neighborhood should behave.

My suggestions to you...now write about how society should rid itself of those that oppress...

Simply, my point is this...one of the most effective methods to help someone to overcome racism...

is to stop the racist activities.

Remember my prior statement about the guys that told a new employer (black woman)..."...you can bring the watermellons."

How effective and what is the purpose you'll be accomplishing to preach to her about her behaviour when racist comments are thrown her way?

Back to the bully kid...about 2 years after that parent meeting...right in front of our house...two older teenagers not from the neighborhood were kicking his butt...a vicious beating...

we watched and did nothing to help him.

That's an example of something in society that has gone wrong...that has gotten twisted into inappropriate reactions.

NihabaAshi

...Still, the black community has to heal itself of so many defective and delinquint behaviors that plague it, especially in the area of rasing children and creating stable families. Without a stable family, their cycle of missed opportunity will scarcely ever end.
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This is a hillbilly statement.

If you think minorities (blacks) are the only culture in America with broken families...your misinformed.

How many couple do you personally know that are divorced, single mother, raising a trouble teenager, parents working so hard they aren't home to properly raise their children, kids hanging out on the streets late at night...

I think every culture in America has this problem.

We should address this as an issue about all families...

There's been some well documented stories on TV's about this issue and they weren't about just blacks...

My point is this...broken families isn't just a black issue.

Which culture in America...based on documented cases of incest...has the highest numbers of such cases?

Oh...we don't want to go there.

To do so while ignoring the fact that its a social problem in America and not a culture problem in America would be doing what the media does via exploiting a piece of information.

NihabaAshi
 
Nihaba,

I generally like your attitude on this.

But I think you need to provide some hard stats.
I sense your glossing over the numbers and ignoring the
bigger picture on purpose.

I know your a stats type of guy, so how about some stats
to back up what your saying??

Nihaba:If you think minorities (blacks) are the only culture in America with broken families...your misinformed.


I think we can all agree they are NOT the only culture
with this problem. The way you worded your statement,
it always has to be true :)

But the real issue is, does any one group have this problem at a
disproportionately HIGH rate?


How about some numbers?

Per capita number of broken black families?
Per capita number of broken white families?
Per capita number of broken asian families?
Per capita number of broken mexican families?


Everyone can point to examples of racism by all groups.
Everyone can point to examples of a minority making it
against all odds and achieving success.

But discussing this with nothing but anecdotal evidence is
pretty worthless. How about some numbers guys?


peace

axeman
 
Ok...so now lets compare to other groups.

What percentage of blacks are in college versus prison?
How about whites?
How about asians?
How about latinos?


Know whats funny? When I attempt searches on
racially based stats I get a bunch of white supremist crap :D
They love quoting all the negative numbers when associated
with racial groups.


peace

axeman



Quote from rowenwood:

There are more black males in prison than in college.
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