Natural Gas Fracking Caused Largest Arkansas Earthquake

bobbymak880 · Mar 7, 2011

First the NY Times hit pieces over the last week. Now these:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/06/fracking-arkansas-earthquakes_n_831633.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/117167/20110228/arkansas-earthquake-natural-gas-link.htm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704076804576180803749643790.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9LONFMG0.htm

Another BIG leg down for NG futures?
Short-covering rally?
Everyone hates NG now.

dafeeder · Mar 7, 2011

Why would it be bearish? Have you turned your gas off on your gas furnace and hot water heater yet?

SideShowBob · Mar 7, 2011

Billy Bob and his wife/sister were thrown from their trailer!

PocketChange · Mar 7, 2011

How can any regulator or engineer even suggest its a good idea to highly pressurize caverns deep under ground? Man made volcano...

The recent bird and fish kills are also related to fracking by releasing ammonia and carbon dioxide.

CO2 is heavier then air and settles in our water supply creating dead zones killing off the fish. Ammonia is lighter than air creating low altitude plumes of poisonous gas that suffocate the birds in flight.

This is all high school level chemistry...

dafeeder · Mar 7, 2011

Volcanos haven't been exploding in Oklahoma so not sure its causes underground Volcanos.

PocketChange · Mar 7, 2011

Volcano just in the sense that the high pressure underground forces gas and other stuff to the surface.

Quote from dafeeder:

Volcanos haven't been exploding in Oklahoma so not sure its causes underground Volcanos.

hedge123 · Mar 7, 2011

Quote from SideShowBob:

Billy Bob and his wife/sister were thrown from their trailer!

Yes, very good. I laughed. Although I will admit I'm reminded of a certain scene in "The Smartest Guys in the Room" about a certain company's traders laughing at turning off granny's heating.

Let's just hope traders never get the power to initiate earthquakes..

auspiv · Mar 7, 2011

Quote from PocketChange:
How can any regulator or engineer even suggest its a good idea to highly pressurize caverns deep under ground? Man made volcano...

Highly pressurized caverns? It's obvious you don't have any idea about gas and oil.

The recent bird and fish kills are also related to fracking by releasing ammonia and carbon dioxide.

I just checked out the first google result for "ammonia fracturing" and was ammonia listed? Nope. Was carbon dioxide listed? Nope. Why you would use either of these for hydraulic fracturing, I have no idea.

CO2 is heavier then air and settles in our water supply creating dead zones killing off the fish. Ammonia is lighter than air creating low altitude plumes of poisonous gas that suffocate the birds in flight.

CO2 also doesn't like to stay trapped in solution. You know, like if you open a can of Coke and let it sit for a day. All of the CO2 is released and is dispersed into the atmosphere, where it mixes with the rest of the greenhouse gases.

Since ammonia is lighter than air, why would it stop rising and create only a low altitude plume of death? It would not. It would keep rising, and be dispersed, just like any other gas in the atmosphere. It would take industrial quantities of ammonia released all at once, with an absolutely still atmosphere, for there to be any chance at all of massive amounts of birds dying. And in that case, it would effect every bird in the area, not just one species, as is the case with the dying birds lately.

In addition: Ammonia is found in trace quantities in the atmosphere, being produced from the putrefaction(decay process) of nitrogenous animal and vegetable matter.

This is all high school level chemistry...

And I must ask: what was your high school chemistry grade?

PocketChange · Apr 15, 2011

The Horrors of Fracking (video) - Must-see 21-minute excerpt of Josh Fox' "Gasland" documentary gives a glimpse into the horrific world people face who live in vicinity of certain fracking operations, with water that catches fire; severe headaches and neurotoxicity; hair falling out; animal, fish and human deaths. Fracking imposes the most severe environmental degradation of any energy type; and is replete with criminal cover-ups of its dangers.

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Quote from auspiv:

Highly pressurized caverns? It's obvious you don't have any idea about gas and oil.

I just checked out the first google result for "ammonia fracturing" and was ammonia listed? Nope. Was carbon dioxide listed? Nope. Why you would use either of these for hydraulic fracturing, I have no idea.

CO2 also doesn't like to stay trapped in solution. You know, like if you open a can of Coke and let it sit for a day. All of the CO2 is released and is dispersed into the atmosphere, where it mixes with the rest of the greenhouse gases.

Since ammonia is lighter than air, why would it stop rising and create only a low altitude plume of death? It would not. It would keep rising, and be dispersed, just like any other gas in the atmosphere. It would take industrial quantities of ammonia released all at once, with an absolutely still atmosphere, for there to be any chance at all of massive amounts of birds dying. And in that case, it would effect every bird in the area, not just one species, as is the case with the dying birds lately.

In addition: Ammonia is found in trace quantities in the atmosphere, being produced from the putrefaction(decay process) of nitrogenous animal and vegetable matter.

And I must ask: what was your high school chemistry grade?

psytrade · Apr 15, 2011

Watch Gasland.... a lot closer to home