NatGas: Belarus threatens to cut off gas to Western Europe

[MKTrader]

Don't apply to morals, when one applies to facts.

You're probably @thecoder , or , somehow related to him.

I chalked it up to being a newbie, but come to think of it, "thecoder" has asked some of the dumbest questions I've read on here in a while--and that's saying something.

 

[MKTrader]

Name us one empire that fell because of over migration and migrants who destroyed the country. Just one. There is none. Empires fell because of the overindulgence by local citizens who could not inconvenience themselves to work anymore. That's how Rome fell. That's how the US is declining now, relatively speaking. And that is how most other empires fell, domestic pride and arrogance. None fell because of some violent migrants.

Wow, someone has been "Googling" (read: seeing curated content and awful "fact checking" articles) and thinks they're smart. Here's one example. Read Heather's book and get back to me.
How immigration destroyed Rome. Oxford historian Peter Heather has reexamined the fall of Rome. His new book, The Fall of the Roman Empire, holds many lessons for today. - Free Online Library (thefreelibrary.com)

 

[MKTrader]

Those Poles can stay as ugly as they wish to be and eat their polish sausage for what it's worth. Who cares? The rest of Europe is getting older and uglier and some fresh blood does not hurt. Have you checked up on the history of Syria and Persia and checked how Persian and Syrian migrants do 10 years after arriving in Europe? There are plenty of cases to look at, many of them have made more out of themselves than the average citizen of the country they now reside in. If contribution and effort and hard work was a differentiating factor then I would on average choose Middle Eastern migrants in Europe any day over African Americans. Any day. But that's just my own opinion derived from past experience.

Divewsity is ouw stwength!

 

[Nobert]

Divewsity is ouw stwength!

Lol

I chalked it up to being a newbie, but come to think of it, "thecoder" has asked some of the dumbest questions I've read on here in a while--and that's saying something.

I have never had anything against newbs.
That would be a low level.

But there's similarities in their writing style & perspective.

 

[thecoder]

I chalked it up to being a newbie, but come to think of it, "thecoder" has asked some of the dumbest questions I've read on here in a while--and that's saying something.

Give us some examples / links

 

[breadcrum]

That is an outright ridiculous claim. Anyone who studied even 30 minutes or more about the Roman empire knows this is nonsense. But in this age one can find an opinion about anything and even an academician to support such opinion.

All other accounts and research on the fall of the Roman empire starkly disagree with this gentleman's opinion.

Wow, someone has been "Googling" (read: seeing curated content and awful "fact checking" articles) and thinks they're smart. Here's one example. Read Heather's book and get back to me.
How immigration destroyed Rome. Oxford historian Peter Heather has reexamined the fall of Rome. His new book, The Fall of the Roman Empire, holds many lessons for today. - Free Online Library (thefreelibrary.com)

 

[JSOP]

Those Poles can stay as ugly as they wish to be and eat their polish sausage for what it's worth. Who cares? The rest of Europe is getting older and uglier and some fresh blood does not hurt. Have you checked up on the history of Syria and Persia and checked how Persian and Syrian migrants do 10 years after arriving in Europe? There are plenty of cases to look at, many of them have made more out of themselves than the average citizen of the country they now reside in. If contribution and effort and hard work was a differentiating factor then I would on average choose Middle Eastern migrants in Europe any day over African Americans. Any day. But that's just my own opinion derived from past experience.

No matter how ugly and old Europe gets, still nobody wants fresh blood!! Especially when those "fresh blood" does not intend to actually make Europe better. They have no knowledge of and have no intention of knowing or appreciating European culture and history or its people. They do not have any love for Europe the way it is or its people. Just like you, they feel Europe as "ugly and old" which really begs the question, if you despise Europe so much, why go there? Why make such an effort to go to some countries to be with "old and ugly" people??!! LOL The purpose and intention is obvious. They want to go to Europe to eventually take over and destroy its culture, imo committing nothing short of genocide. They have already done that in England. There were massive demonstrations demanding the implementation of sharia law and open harassment of people in public to obey sharia law. Good thing UK is out of EU now and they finally have more say in what goes on in their own country.

Otherwise, stay in Syria and Iran!! Especially when you can make so much out of yourselves. Why not stay in Syria and Iran and make something out of yourselves there instead of migrating to Europe??!! A continent that you obviously despise so much??!!

 

[JSOP]

Based on exactly what do you conclude that "we" don't need more? Based on exactly what do you conclude that "we" don't need more? An aging society disagrees. A significant number of lazy people in our western countries who rather collect welfare cheques than work hard point to the contrary. What rational do you use to argue we don't need more? Who will wipe your ass when you get old and family won't want to inconvenience itself? Wanna count on some hick or depressed western nurse that smokes weed to deal with her anxiety attack or rather be cared for by some Filipina immigrant nurse?

Based on "we don't need more people so fuck off!" that we conclude that we don't need more people. An aging population is none of your business. Immigration is not the only solution to an aging population. Ask Japan. The immigrants that we bring in today won't be the ones who will be wiping my ass tomorrow when I get old and "family won't want to inconvenience itself".

If immigration is so great, let me ask you this: WHY is your country China refusing immigration when it's also facing an aging population and declining birth rate?

 

[breadcrum]

Nobody despises Europe. All middle eastern friends I know made something out of themselves in Germany. They became dentists or work as engineers at German car manufacturing plants. There are bad apples everywhere. But there are also those who pay taxes like you and me. I have not met anyone yet personally who intents to destroy Europe. On the other hand I am sure we can find plenty Europeans who rather depend on welfare than working jobs commensurate with their low levels of education and intellect. You want to treat everything as black and white but nothing is black and white.

No matter how ugly and old Europe gets, still nobody wants fresh blood!! Especially when those "fresh blood" does not intend to actually make Europe better. They have no knowledge of and have no intention of knowing or appreciating European culture and history or its people. They do not have any love for Europe the way it is or its people. Just like you, they feel Europe as "ugly and old" which really begs the question, if you despise Europe so much, why go there? Why make such an effort to go to some countries to be with "old and ugly" people??!! LOL The purpose and intention is obvious. They want to go to Europe to eventually take over and destroy its culture, imo committing nothing short of genocide. They have already done that in England. There were massive demonstrations demanding the implementation of sharia law and open harassment of people in public to obey sharia law. Good thing UK is out of EU now and they finally have more say in what goes on in their own country.

Otherwise, stay in Syria and Iran!! Especially when you can make so much out of yourselves. Why not stay in Syria and Iran and make something out of yourselves there instead of migrating to Europe??!! A continent that you obviously despise so much??!!

 

[breadcrum]

I am central European. Your opinion is duly noted. Glad we can at least agree it's just an opinion of yours, albeit quite an uninformed one.

Based on "we don't need more people so fuck off!" that we conclude that we don't need more people. An aging population is none of your business. Immigration is not the only solution to an aging population. Ask Japan. The immigrants that we bring in today won't be the ones who will be wiping my ass tomorrow when I get old and "family won't want to inconvenience itself".

If immigration is so great, let me ask you this: WHY is your country China refusing immigration when it's also facing an aging population and declining birth rate?