NASA: Al Gore, It's The Sun Stupid!

Tresor · Jun 5, 2009

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You're hitting each logical fallacy. This is the "naturalistic fallacy" where if something is "natural" it can't be harmful.

I had already proven (using simple biological logic) that CO2 is vital to life on Earth. The more CO2 in atmosphere, the better carbon circulation in the environment. Every reasonably thinking person should advocate an increase of CO2 in the environment. I have also proven that CO2 has nothing to do with global warming or melting the ice or increase in sea level.

You did NOT prove any of your points. Your points are based on beliefs, not on knowledge.

Regards

bigdavediode · Jun 5, 2009

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I had already proven (using simple biological logic) that CO2 is vital to life on Earth.

With all do respect, you've actually "proven" nothing whatsoever. However, yes, Co2 is vital to life on Earth. So is water. You might not want to breathe either in large quantities, however.

The more CO2 in atmosphere, the better carbon circulation in the environment. Every reasonably thinking person should advocate an increase of CO2 in the environment.

"Every reasonably thinking person" (sigh) This is "appeal to belief", "appeal to the majority", "appeal to the people" where a proposition is claimed to be true solely because many people believe it to be true, and it's the mark of someone who is not thinking because it's not logic. It's also a conclusion, not a premise.

I have also proven that CO2 has nothing to do with global warming or melting the ice or increase in sea level.

Uhhh... no. You haven't even posted the Keeling curve. Additionally there's no evidence that you've even heard of it.

You did NOT prove any of your points. Your points are based on beliefs, not on knowledge.

Regards

LOL.

bigdavediode · Jun 5, 2009

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I am afraid the crowd has already voted My country will pay several billions Euro yearly for CO2 emission rights and people did not riot. Fucking European Union.

Remember how the Republicans opposed the banning of CFC's to save the Ozone layer as it would be an insurmountable cost to businesses and a drain on the economy?

Tresor · Jun 5, 2009

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Uhhh... no. You haven't even posted the Keeling curve. Additionally there's no evidence that you've even heard of it.

CO2 has nothing to do with sea level increase. No need to have posted it.

Regards

Stiil you did not prove your beliefs.

4444CJones4444 · Jun 5, 2009

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...I have also proven that CO2 has nothing to do with global warming or melting the ice or increase in sea level...

Well, buddy, I wouldn't go so far as to say you proved anything. You stated your points and kept a dialogue going, but the idea is to keep an open mind. Remember, the "we're destroying the planet" crowd have the closed minds. They think all the data has been collected and all the facts are known, even though the earth's dynamic climate continually fools the scientists. Hell, they couldn't even figure out how to keep the biosphere2 going without scrubbing C02 and adding oxygen. What's that microclimate compared to the vastness of the earth?

I'm open to the possibility CO2 is warming the climate. By how much is what I have an issue with. And what about the possibility of another little ice age without the industrial revolution? It made life pretty damn tough for mankind in the middle ages and then slowed around 1850. Who's to say the cycle would not have dipped down again in the 1900's without man "destroying the planet?"

Speaking of the little ice age, there are some who argue the current warming trend is linked to the end of that colder period. There are just too many variables to know for sure.

Tresor · Jun 5, 2009

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Remember how the Republicans opposed the banning of CFC's to save the Ozone layer as it would be an insurmountable cost to businesses and a drain on the economy?

Irrelevant.

bigdavediode · Jun 5, 2009

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CO2 has nothing to do with sea level increase. No need to have posted it.

Oh, okay. Well if you say so. And if you say that NASA is biased against the downtrodden oil industry, then I accept your conclusion. Melting ice can't cause increasing sea levels and the Co2 molecule doesn't absorb infra-red radiation and therefore Co2 doesn't cause melting ice.

Good enough for me.

Regards

Stiil you did not prove your beliefs.

What are my beliefs? You have given us quite a few of yours, many of which you've already had to walk backwards as they contradicted, well, reality.

Tresor · Jun 5, 2009

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I'm open to the possibility CO2 is warming the climate.

Did anyone explained to you how CO2 is warming the climate?

Tresor · Jun 5, 2009

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And if you say that NASA is biased against the downtrodden oil industry, then I accept your conclusion.

You are putting words in my mouth.

bigdavediode · Jun 5, 2009

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Irrelevant.