Nancy's hypocrasy in the minimum wage hike

Quote from Arnie:

Reid tried to block this reform.


Reid Backtracks, Accepts Tougher Earmark Reform

Reid passed the earmark reform that the Republicans didn't do in 12 years. And somehow this was Reid's defeat? You wingnuts are really amazing. Where were you in the last 12 years?

Which way did Reid vote? For or against? If a bill that Reid brings to the floor, and votes for is passed, how is it his defeat?

Wingnuts are lying and grasping at straws.
 
Outright lies from republikans and neoklans?

Fancy that...

Quote from james_bond_3rd:

This is an outright lie. Here is the list of top institution owners of Del Monte:
TOP INSTITUTIONAL HOLDERS
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
ATLANTIC INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, INC. 13,870,000 6.88 $144,941,500 30-Sep-06
WELLS FARGO & COMPANY 10,839,598 5.38 $113,273,799 30-Sep-06
LEGG MASON INC. 10,152,640 5.04 $106,095,088 30-Sep-06
Mellon Financial Corporation 9,838,394 4.88 $102,811,217 30-Sep-06
LSV ASSET MANAGEMENT 9,801,641 4.86 $102,427,148 30-Sep-06
SASCO CAPITAL, INC. 9,119,450 4.52 $95,298,252 30-Sep-06
JP MORGAN CHASE & COMPANY 8,815,353 4.37 $92,120,438 30-Sep-06
SOUTHEASTERN ASSET MANAGEMENT, INC. 6,481,200 3.22 $67,728,540 30-Sep-06
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) 6,038,040 3.00 $63,097,518 30-Sep-06
STATE STREET CORPORATION 5,129,988 2.54 $53,608,374 30-Sep-06

And here is the list of top mutual fund owners:
TOP MUTUAL FUND HOLDERS
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
LONGLEAF PARTNERS SMALL-CAP FUND 6,382,600 3.17 $66,698,170 30-Sep-06
JP MORGAN MID CAP VALUE FUND 4,293,000 2.13 $46,321,470 31-Oct-06
Wells Fargo Advantage Small Cap Value Fd 3,968,835 1.97 $42,823,729 31-Oct-06
Wells Fargo Advantage Mid Cap Disciplined Fd 2,949,000 1.46 $31,819,710 31-Oct-06
Olstein All Cap Value Fund 2,259,700 1.12 $23,613,865 30-Sep-06
Advantage Funds, Inc.- Dreyfus Mid Cap Value Fund 2,015,800 1.00 $21,065,110 30-Sep-06
WESTPORT SELECT CAP FUND 1,713,000 .85 $17,900,850 30-Sep-06
COLLEGE RETIREMENT EQUITIES FUND-STOCK ACCOUNT 1,694,277 .84 $19,026,730 30-Jun-06
VANGUARD SMALL-CAP INDEX FUND 1,454,373 .72 $15,198,197 30-Sep-06
ADVISORS INNER CIRCLE-LSV VALUE EQUITY FD 1,226,231 .61 $12,850,900 31-Jul-06

Do the math yourself. These owners add to over 50% of total shares.

How can wingnuts make up such stupid lies?
 
6 years of Bush and his crony butt licking gang of neoklans and no such bill...

About one week with Dems in charge, and we get something worth having...

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate on Friday approved a measure stripping taxpayer-funded pensions from members of Congress who are convicted of serious ethics offenses, such as bribery and conspiracy.

The vote was 87-0.

Sens. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, and Ken Salazar, D-Colorado, attached the amendment to an ethics reform bill earlier this week.

"The only thing crazier than giving a member of Congress convicted of a crime a federal pension is the fact that we still need a bill to prevent a convict from receiving their pension," Salazar said at the time. "A member of Congress who abuses their position of authority for their personal profit deserves a prison sentence, not a government pension."

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, said Friday that the House will take up a similar bill next Friday.

If passed by the House and signed into law by President Bush, the bill would eliminate pensions only for future members of Congress convicted of ethics offenses.
 
Poor misguided lefty.

"Based on the exchange ratio and assuming Heinz's current, fully diluted capitalization, Heinz shareholders will receive — in addition to retaining their current Heinz shares — approximately 0.45 shares of new Del Monte company common stock for every share of Heinz common stock they hold. As a result, Heinz shareholders will own 74.5% of the new Del Monte at the close of the transaction — although the two companies will be entirely independent. The transaction is expected to close at the end of calendar 2002 or early 2003, subject to regulatory and IRS approvals."



Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Wow, the wingnuts are out in force. Did you just receive the marching orders?

You think someone would believe an entry on wiki that was made today as credible source?

$17 million at $11/share would be over 1.5 million shares. That would certainly appear as one of the top holders. Here is the list of major holders of Del Monte Foods:
MAJOR DIRECT HOLDERS (FORMS 3 & 4)
Holder Shares Reported
WOLFORD RICHARD G 494,901 6-Dec-06
MEYERS DAVID L 182,870 28-Sep-06
LOMMERIN NILS 108,900 2-Nov-06
WILLIAMS DAVID R 61,909 21-Sep-06
BINOTTO DONALD J 58,491 5-Dec-05
I don't see anyone here by the name of Paul. Do you?

Where is your credibility?
 
I doubt you've never trade a security in your life.

And LoZZZer, shame on you as someone who know's California business to not be privy to the Heinz/Del Monte relationship.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20020614/ai_n10790306

http://www.atuna.com/markt/News Articles/starkist_is_not_moving_productio.htm

http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.h...id=QA5YM2FXRHZYQAKRGWDSELQBKE0YIISW?id=794128


Quote from james_bond_3rd:

This is an outright lie. Here is the list of top institution owners of Del Monte:
TOP INSTITUTIONAL HOLDERS
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
ATLANTIC INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT, INC. 13,870,000 6.88 $144,941,500 30-Sep-06
WELLS FARGO & COMPANY 10,839,598 5.38 $113,273,799 30-Sep-06
LEGG MASON INC. 10,152,640 5.04 $106,095,088 30-Sep-06
Mellon Financial Corporation 9,838,394 4.88 $102,811,217 30-Sep-06
LSV ASSET MANAGEMENT 9,801,641 4.86 $102,427,148 30-Sep-06
SASCO CAPITAL, INC. 9,119,450 4.52 $95,298,252 30-Sep-06
JP MORGAN CHASE & COMPANY 8,815,353 4.37 $92,120,438 30-Sep-06
SOUTHEASTERN ASSET MANAGEMENT, INC. 6,481,200 3.22 $67,728,540 30-Sep-06
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) 6,038,040 3.00 $63,097,518 30-Sep-06
STATE STREET CORPORATION 5,129,988 2.54 $53,608,374 30-Sep-06

And here is the list of top mutual fund owners:
TOP MUTUAL FUND HOLDERS
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
LONGLEAF PARTNERS SMALL-CAP FUND 6,382,600 3.17 $66,698,170 30-Sep-06
JP MORGAN MID CAP VALUE FUND 4,293,000 2.13 $46,321,470 31-Oct-06
Wells Fargo Advantage Small Cap Value Fd 3,968,835 1.97 $42,823,729 31-Oct-06
Wells Fargo Advantage Mid Cap Disciplined Fd 2,949,000 1.46 $31,819,710 31-Oct-06
Olstein All Cap Value Fund 2,259,700 1.12 $23,613,865 30-Sep-06
Advantage Funds, Inc.- Dreyfus Mid Cap Value Fund 2,015,800 1.00 $21,065,110 30-Sep-06
WESTPORT SELECT CAP FUND 1,713,000 .85 $17,900,850 30-Sep-06
COLLEGE RETIREMENT EQUITIES FUND-STOCK ACCOUNT 1,694,277 .84 $19,026,730 30-Jun-06
VANGUARD SMALL-CAP INDEX FUND 1,454,373 .72 $15,198,197 30-Sep-06
ADVISORS INNER CIRCLE-LSV VALUE EQUITY FD 1,226,231 .61 $12,850,900 31-Jul-06

Do the math yourself. These owners add to over 50% of total shares.

How can wingnuts make up such stupid lies?
 
You're as a big a freakin' idiot as Toronto. Did I say Wikipedia is a "credible" source or did I use "report" in quotation marks with a disclaimer saying we'll see if Wikipedia makes a correction?
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Wow, the wingnuts are out in force. Did you just receive the marching orders?

You think someone would believe an entry on wiki that was made today as credible source?

$17 million at $11/share would be over 1.5 million shares. That would certainly appear as one of the top holders. Here is the list of major holders of Del Monte Foods:
MAJOR DIRECT HOLDERS (FORMS 3 & 4)
Holder Shares Reported
WOLFORD RICHARD G 494,901 6-Dec-06
MEYERS DAVID L 182,870 28-Sep-06
LOMMERIN NILS 108,900 2-Nov-06
WILLIAMS DAVID R 61,909 21-Sep-06
BINOTTO DONALD J 58,491 5-Dec-05
I don't see anyone here by the name of Paul. Do you?

Where is your credibility?
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I doubt you've never trade a security in your life.

And LoZZZer, shame on you as someone who know's California business to not be privy to the Heinz/Del Monte relationship.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20020614/ai_n10790306

http://www.atuna.com/markt/News Articles/starkist_is_not_moving_productio.htm

http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.h...id=QA5YM2FXRHZYQAKRGWDSELQBKE0YIISW?id=794128

The articles you quoted say that at the time of spinoff, Heinz shareholders (ie, the public, not Heinz) would hold 75% of Del Monte. Your post saying that Heinz holds 75% of Del Monte is either a lie, or you're simply too stupid to understand the deal.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You're as a big a freakin' idiot as Toronto. Did I say Wikipedia is a "credible" source or did I use "report" in quotation marks with a disclaimer saying we'll see if Wikipedia makes a correction?

If you don't believe the wiki article, then why did you post it here?

Also why aren't you answering the question about the lie that Paul something owning $17 million of Del Monte?
 
Quote from sputdr:

Poor misguided lefty.

"Based on the exchange ratio and assuming Heinz's current, fully diluted capitalization, Heinz shareholders will receive — in addition to retaining their current Heinz shares — approximately 0.45 shares of new Del Monte company common stock for every share of Heinz common stock they hold. As a result, Heinz shareholders will own 74.5% of the new Del Monte at the close of the transaction — although the two companies will be entirely independent. The transaction is expected to close at the end of calendar 2002 or early 2003, subject to regulatory and IRS approvals."

Looks like the wingnuts don't have any ability to think - either that or they'll just say anything to backup their lies.

At the time of spin off, average Joe's each Heinz share became 1 Heinz share and 0.45 Del Monte share. The fact that he owns both Heinz and Del Monte shares at the same time does not mean that Heinz owns Del Monte!

Do I need to explain this more slowwwwwly? I can't believe that anyone who's ever traded in the market doesn't understand this.
 
and who do you think owns those shares?

John Kerry's husband's company.

DUH?????




Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Looks like the wingnuts don't have any ability to think - either that or they'll just say anything to backup their lies.

At the time of spin off, average Joe's each Heinz share became 1 Heinz share and 0.45 Del Monte share. The fact that he owns both Heinz and Del Monte shares at the same time does not mean that Heinz owns Del Monte!

Do I need to explain this more slowwwwwly? I can't believe that anyone who's ever traded in the market doesn't understand this.
 
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