Name of Option Position?

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oldtime

Last time somebody asked this questions the answers were "Who cares?" and "Get a book."

It's basically just a short straddle with a UL in between. 2 x 1 (or 1 x 2 depending on how you look at it.)

The idea is I'm long term bullish but not expecting anything spectacular short term. So from the top down it's

short 2 otm calls
long 1 ul
short 2 otm puts

I know I'll get hurt if ul gets close to strike, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

All I want to know is if there's a name for it.
 
Don't know if there is a name but 2 short puts+1 covered call (long UL and short call) = 3 short puts at different strikes. That leaves the extra short call.
 
Why does it need a name? You're long underlying and short strangles. That's what it's called. You could also say that you're short a one-lot synthetic straddle (call-strike) and short two-lot in puts.
 
I think Option Coach had a name for an unbalanced strangle in his book.

I'll go look it up. /brb

Edit: He calls them straps and strips depending on whether it has extra calls or puts.
 
Quote from Eliot Hosewater:

Don't know if there is a name but 2 short puts+1 covered call (long UL and short call) = 3 short puts at different strikes. That leaves the extra short call.
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ok, let me think about it.
 
The position will dissect to a two-lot covered call if the puts are near-ATM (static). Further OTM on puts reduces the upside deltas. Do you really want to be in a CC if you're bullish?

I would suggest a "married straddle" if you want to be long and earn on a vol-drop or decay. Long 100 UL and short 1 ATM straddle. Less gamma and heartache if you're wrong.
 
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The position will dissect to a two-lot covered call if the puts are near-ATM (static PNL distribution). Further OTM on puts reduces the upside deltas. Do you really want to be in a CC if you're bullish?
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No, I just want to be flat out long, but even the minimum contract is too volatile for my account (and I probably shouldn't even be trading it) so I have to give up something somewhere.

Give me some time to think about it. I need to go figure out what PNL distribution is.
 
Quote from atticus:

The position will dissect to a two-lot covered call if the puts are near-ATM (static). Further OTM on puts reduces the upside deltas. Do you really want to be in a CC if you're bullish?

I would suggest a "married straddle" if you want to be long and earn on a vol-drop or decay. Long 100 UL and short 1 ATM straddle. Less gamma and heartache if you're wrong.
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Isn't that still two short puts?
 
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No, I just want to be flat out long, but even the minimum contract is too volatile for my account (and I probably shouldn't even be trading it) so I have to give up something somewhere.

Give me some time to think about it. I need to go figure out what PNL distribution is.
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PNL - P&L - the profit/loss graph at expiration.

If you just want to be long stock try short put+long call, but the stock needs to move before expiration. Cheaper than buying stock but they don't last forever, plus you get the same downside as naked long stock.
 
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