...our last update was after 15-Aug-2007 close.
We will now try to make some sense with regards to these subsequent trades.
With the markets [DJIA/Nasdaq/SPX/QQQ/NYA/RUT/MID/SML/SOXX] in complete disarray as a result of the schizo action we've been experiencing for months, the close on 15-Aug-2007 - with all these indexes below support - and the ominous pre-market futures and open and the Vix/Vxn sending flashing signals that we are surely going to further bank on what we've been waiting for SO LONG, we entered a bearish call spread in AAPL (ITM) and in RIMM (WOTM).
AAPL was at the Sep 115c/Sep110c strikes for 10 contracts (still open) and RIMM was at the Sep 220c/Sep230c strikes also at 10 contracts.
Well...we all know what the Fed did to screw that up. We did manage to close the RIMM position for a profit. And when managers return to their desks after the holidays, perhaps we can get some improvement in our AAPL position.
The 2 trades you see in AAPL that were opened and closed on the 16th were mistakes (wrong strikes). Loss $400. After this trade you'll see another mistake in STO QQQIU 150 contracts profit $1,350. The next QQQHU for a loss of $125 was also a mistake (opened and closed).
The next two also were mistakes QQQHS and QQQHT. They were both STO when I wanted (1) STO and the other BTO as a "spread". So I closed these loss $375 gain $250.
I was trying to contruct the appropriate "spread" trades - which I finally did. See 16-Aug-2007 BTO QQQHT Aug07 46c and STO QQQHS Aug07 45c, 125 contracts each. This was closed for a $2,875 loss.
Another $250 gain/mistake at 14:52 on 16-Aug-2007 in QQQHT 125 contracts. Collective2 makes you "leg into" these trades which I'm still getting used to.
My 150 contract spread at the Sep07 48c/49c strikes seemed safe enough OTM early on the 16th...but the Fed action and subsequent market open forced a close of this position for a loss of $3,300.
We did open a spread trade at the Sep07 49c/50c strikes that is still open. It seems far enough out the money...but last week's jump in light trade is making it squirrelly as well.
Lastly the QQQIV trade of 130 contracts was a $1,040 (loss mistake as well.
The idea was not to open and close all these "mistakes" for small gains/losses or to accumulate commission costs. The idea was that the market was going to go into a tailspin with COMPLETE PANIC about to unfold so bearish bets were made ITM with AAPL and WOTM above overhead resistance in RIMM (220/230). And to capitalize on QQQ penny bid/ask spreads AND 45/46, 47/48, 49/50 (with support already broken) strikes as being above resistance levels we WERE well positioned.
Unfortunately, the Fed intervened and further delayed the inevitable - a complete rush for the exits - that will accompany the bottom of a true correction. Also - as you all know - volatility disappeared last week and the mostly only stocks that went up on anemic volume were AAPL/RIMM/BIDU/BCSI etc. So stops were hit and here we are.
Well where are we in relation to the ET (hypothetical) 1M account?
Who knows...but when you look at my C2 graph you can see that serious gains (or losses recouped) have been made off the lows using index spreads while the market is in a downtrend.
It seems this market "top" took a while to unfold and for institutional favorite stocks to hit a rough patch (as you know our first attempt/entries, although ultimately would've been very profitable - but in heeding our stop loss methods were closed to bring $1M down to about $.75M.)
No fear though, (since we know what we are doing) this was easily enough mostly recouped...but with the market ONLY correcting 10% before the Fed jumped in...we still have work/profit on the way down that unfortunately is temporarily being further delayed. This market has been trying to properly correct since March!!!
But idiot/newbie Wall Street managers keep wanting to buy a few stocks and keep an uptrend - that of course cannot sustain, forever.
Now that support had been seriously breached and GOOG/RIMM/AAPL etc., starting to get hit...these get bid up last week and the indexes move back up above support levels ON LIGHT TRADE - as if there weren't even any overhead resistance!!
So things are getting a bit murky with the translation of trades made in my C2 account to the ET Fund.
At C2 the AAPL trade (currently open) is an ITM "bearish call spread". Also I have opened another (small) such trade in RZ. Also the covered call trade in PRKR opened on the 8th is not in keeping with my WOTM Index Spread Strategy, but I'll do my best.
Since the 15th...C2 went from $91,960 to $93,270 or a 1.425% gain. Previous ET account at $896,277 is now $909,045.
Also note that C2 (erroneous) reporting of bid/ask prices at some closes is off a bit and resulted in the about 5% extra drawdown (from -18% to -23%). Also I think I will try to construct spreads with ES and SPY to diversify holdings a bit more to smooth out equity curve from these "spread" trades. Once the market did actually top (our 26-Jul-2007 call) funds have increased from 25% in a very short time
We will keep you posted.
Paysense
aka Gilbert
Quote from Paysense: "New Account Value: $896,277
So we rather quickly recouped about 20% in gains from the low of ~$750,000 from $1M. From initiial (wrong,lol) "top" call trades that got stopped. "
We will now try to make some sense with regards to these subsequent trades.
With the markets [DJIA/Nasdaq/SPX/QQQ/NYA/RUT/MID/SML/SOXX] in complete disarray as a result of the schizo action we've been experiencing for months, the close on 15-Aug-2007 - with all these indexes below support - and the ominous pre-market futures and open and the Vix/Vxn sending flashing signals that we are surely going to further bank on what we've been waiting for SO LONG, we entered a bearish call spread in AAPL (ITM) and in RIMM (WOTM).
AAPL was at the Sep 115c/Sep110c strikes for 10 contracts (still open) and RIMM was at the Sep 220c/Sep230c strikes also at 10 contracts.
Well...we all know what the Fed did to screw that up. We did manage to close the RIMM position for a profit. And when managers return to their desks after the holidays, perhaps we can get some improvement in our AAPL position.
The 2 trades you see in AAPL that were opened and closed on the 16th were mistakes (wrong strikes). Loss $400. After this trade you'll see another mistake in STO QQQIU 150 contracts profit $1,350. The next QQQHU for a loss of $125 was also a mistake (opened and closed).
The next two also were mistakes QQQHS and QQQHT. They were both STO when I wanted (1) STO and the other BTO as a "spread". So I closed these loss $375 gain $250.
I was trying to contruct the appropriate "spread" trades - which I finally did. See 16-Aug-2007 BTO QQQHT Aug07 46c and STO QQQHS Aug07 45c, 125 contracts each. This was closed for a $2,875 loss.
Another $250 gain/mistake at 14:52 on 16-Aug-2007 in QQQHT 125 contracts. Collective2 makes you "leg into" these trades which I'm still getting used to.
My 150 contract spread at the Sep07 48c/49c strikes seemed safe enough OTM early on the 16th...but the Fed action and subsequent market open forced a close of this position for a loss of $3,300.
We did open a spread trade at the Sep07 49c/50c strikes that is still open. It seems far enough out the money...but last week's jump in light trade is making it squirrelly as well.
Lastly the QQQIV trade of 130 contracts was a $1,040 (loss mistake as well.
The idea was not to open and close all these "mistakes" for small gains/losses or to accumulate commission costs. The idea was that the market was going to go into a tailspin with COMPLETE PANIC about to unfold so bearish bets were made ITM with AAPL and WOTM above overhead resistance in RIMM (220/230). And to capitalize on QQQ penny bid/ask spreads AND 45/46, 47/48, 49/50 (with support already broken) strikes as being above resistance levels we WERE well positioned.
Unfortunately, the Fed intervened and further delayed the inevitable - a complete rush for the exits - that will accompany the bottom of a true correction. Also - as you all know - volatility disappeared last week and the mostly only stocks that went up on anemic volume were AAPL/RIMM/BIDU/BCSI etc. So stops were hit and here we are.
Well where are we in relation to the ET (hypothetical) 1M account?
Who knows...but when you look at my C2 graph you can see that serious gains (or losses recouped) have been made off the lows using index spreads while the market is in a downtrend.
It seems this market "top" took a while to unfold and for institutional favorite stocks to hit a rough patch (as you know our first attempt/entries, although ultimately would've been very profitable - but in heeding our stop loss methods were closed to bring $1M down to about $.75M.)
No fear though, (since we know what we are doing) this was easily enough mostly recouped...but with the market ONLY correcting 10% before the Fed jumped in...we still have work/profit on the way down that unfortunately is temporarily being further delayed. This market has been trying to properly correct since March!!!
But idiot/newbie Wall Street managers keep wanting to buy a few stocks and keep an uptrend - that of course cannot sustain, forever.
Now that support had been seriously breached and GOOG/RIMM/AAPL etc., starting to get hit...these get bid up last week and the indexes move back up above support levels ON LIGHT TRADE - as if there weren't even any overhead resistance!!
So things are getting a bit murky with the translation of trades made in my C2 account to the ET Fund.
At C2 the AAPL trade (currently open) is an ITM "bearish call spread". Also I have opened another (small) such trade in RZ. Also the covered call trade in PRKR opened on the 8th is not in keeping with my WOTM Index Spread Strategy, but I'll do my best.
Since the 15th...C2 went from $91,960 to $93,270 or a 1.425% gain. Previous ET account at $896,277 is now $909,045.
Also note that C2 (erroneous) reporting of bid/ask prices at some closes is off a bit and resulted in the about 5% extra drawdown (from -18% to -23%). Also I think I will try to construct spreads with ES and SPY to diversify holdings a bit more to smooth out equity curve from these "spread" trades. Once the market did actually top (our 26-Jul-2007 call) funds have increased from 25% in a very short time

We will keep you posted.
Paysense
aka Gilbert

. This lowered risk per trade can be seen in history.