Nader: How Many Gazans Have Already Died? Perhaps 200,000.

More nonsense, where do you get these bullshit numbers from? Just made up on the spot to defend cold blooded murder?

Your bottomline has got NOTHING to do with the topic, nobody asked you for your bottomline which you keep peddling because you got no answer to Israel's shit tactics which is not something new.

So tell us -- how many of the 30,000 claimed dead by the Gaza Health Ministry are Hamas militants and how many of Palestinian civilians? Tell us what the breakdown is.

Keep in mind that at least 1/3 of Hamas militants are under the age of 18.
 
If Israel was deliberately and indiscriminately mass murdering civilians then there would be over a million dead in Gaza. In context of a very difficult urban warfare situation, Israel has attempted to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties. It's far from perfect -- but it is definitely not "mass murder" or "genocide".

The bottom line is that Hamas is solely responsible for this war and the crisis in Gaza.
back to denying reality are we? Joe even said Israel was being indiscriminate, it's time for you to get on board. This waffling is ridiculous.
 
So tell us -- how many of the 30,000 claimed dead by the Gaza Health Ministry are Hamas militants and how many of Palestinian civilians? Tell us what the breakdown is.

Keep in mind that at least 1/3 of Hamas militants are under the age of 18.
this has been asked and answered already:
Imagine thinking the US Defense Secretary is an idiot because you're brainwashed by a foreign power's propaganda?
 
So tell us -- how many of the 30,000 claimed dead by the Gaza Health Ministry are Hamas militants and how many of Palestinian civilians? Tell us what the breakdown is.

Keep in mind that at least 1/3 of Hamas militants are under the age of 18.

Are you some accountant?? Do you need to feed these numbers into an excel sheet to generate empathy?

I reject your deflection, your made up questions are absolutely irrelevant to the topic in hand which is Israel's heavy handed tactics which is for everyone to see. And this is not something new, this has been going on for decades irrespective of Hamas's terrorist activities.
 
Are you some accountant?? Do you need to feed these numbers into an excel sheet to generate empathy?

I reject your deflection, your made up questions are absolutely irrelevant to the topic in hand which is Israel's heavy handed tactics which is for everyone to see. And this is not something new, this has been going on for decades irrespective of Hamas's terrorist activities.

Once again let's walk through the reality. The Hamas Health Ministry does not provide a breakdown of militant versus civilians deaths in Gaza. This failure to provide a realistic breakdown of figures is deliberate and merely meant to promote the pro-Hamas agenda.

Hamas leaders have admitted to 6000 militant deaths in this war. Israel states the figure is at 12,000 militant deaths. Let's split the number down the middle and say it is 9,000 militant deaths. This means that approximately 1/3 of the 30,000 deaths in Gaza are militants. The percentage may even be as high as 50%.

Militant deaths are not civilian deaths. Militants are shooting weapons at Israelis.

All of this is directly pertinent to a thread focusing on "How many Gazans have already died".
 
Once again let's walk through the reality. The Hamas Health Ministry does not provide a breakdown of militant versus civilians deaths in Gaza. This failure to provide a realistic breakdown of figures is deliberate and merely meant to promote the pro-Hamas agenda.

Hamas leaders have admitted to 6000 militant deaths in this war. Israel states the figure is at 12,000 militant deaths. Let's split the number down the middle and say it is 9,000 militant deaths. This means that approximately 1/3 of the 30,000 deaths in Gaza are militants. The percentage may even be as high as 50%.

Militant deaths are not civilian deaths. Militants are shooting weapons at Israelis.

All of this is directly pertinent to a thread focusing on "How many Gazans have already died".

So Biden is lying? Every other country watching Israel is lying?

Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ne...ns-ceasefire-2d4e5657db45ccbe2bb793f06f74c913

This is the reality, you don't want to admit it for whatever reasons.
 
So Biden is lying? Every other country watching Israel is lying?

Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ne...ns-ceasefire-2d4e5657db45ccbe2bb793f06f74c913

This is the reality, you don't want to admit it for whatever reasons.

Yes, I agree that Israel should do more to prevent civilian deaths in Gaza. Additionally, Israel and the international community need to do more in getting aid into Gaza for Palestinian civilians. I have stated both these points multiple times in the past.

However the urban warfare environment where Hamas uses civilians as human shields in Gaza leads to a very difficult situation for the IDF.

Everyone should also be reminded that it is Hamas not Israel which is holding up a ceasefire agreement which will allow more aid to be delivered into Gaza.

Trying to call the deaths of Palestinian civilians and militants in Gaza 'mass murder" or "genocide" is clearly outside the bounds of reality.
 
Yes, I agree that Israel should do more to prevent civilian deaths in Gaza. Additionally, Israel and the international community need to do more in getting aid into Gaza for Palestinian civilians. I have stated both these points multiple times in the past.

However the urban warfare environment where Hamas uses civilians as human shields in Gaza leads to a very difficult situation for the IDF.

Everyone should also be reminded that it is Hamas not Israel which is holding up a ceasefire agreement which will allow more aid to be delivered into Gaza.

Trying to call the deaths of Palestinian civilians and militants in Gaza 'mass murder" or "genocide" is clearly outside the bounds of reality.

You don't have to qualify criticism of Israel's shit tactics by mentioning Hamas every time, nobody here is defending Hamas - the topic is how shit Israel has been to Palestinians for decades and it's becoming more obvious now to many.
 
So Biden is lying? Every other country watching Israel is lying?

Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ne...ns-ceasefire-2d4e5657db45ccbe2bb793f06f74c913

This is the reality, you don't want to admit it for whatever reasons.
The headline is wrong
Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

Should be
Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Biden in Michigan ’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza
 
Once again let's walk through the reality. The Hamas Health Ministry does not provide a breakdown of militant versus civilians deaths in Gaza. This failure to provide a realistic breakdown of figures is deliberate and merely meant to promote the pro-Hamas agenda.

Hamas leaders have admitted to 6000 militant deaths in this war. Israel states the figure is at 12,000 militant deaths. Let's split the number down the middle and say it is 9,000 militant deaths. This means that approximately 1/3 of the 30,000 deaths in Gaza are militants. The percentage may even be as high as 50%.

Militant deaths are not civilian deaths. Militants are shooting weapons at Israelis.

All of this is directly pertinent to a thread focusing on "How many Gazans have already died".

you've got Lloyd Austin himself saying 25k dead women and children in a congressional hearing. You've got Israel intelligence admitting to using the Gaza health ministry for their numbers (as they publicly denounce) since they have nothing else to go by....you're right 30k is an outdated number. I'm not the biggest fan of euromed but it's not like Israel allows international observers in:

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