Mystery of Israel's secret uranium bomb

[dddooo]

Oh and btw the following quote is not exactly accurate either:

Quote from WAEL012000:

By Robert Fisk
...assault that cost more than 1,300 Lebanese lives, most of them civilians?

The Lebanese civilian death toll is difficult to pinpoint as most published figures don't distinguish between civilians and militants, including those released by the Lebanese government.

Lebanese top police office...put the death toll at 1,123...Human Rights Watch, based on its own investigation, estimated the tally of the dead at 1,119, including civilians, military personnel and militants,[9] while the Associated Press estimated the figure at 1,035...

but

Israel estimated that its forces had killed 600 Hezbollah fighters.In addition, Israel claimed to have the names of 532 dead Hezbollah fighters. A UN official estimated that 500 Hezbollah fighters had been killed, and Lebanese government officials estimated that up to 500 had been killed. A Stratfor report cited "sources in Lebanon" as estimating the Hezbollah death toll at "more than 700... with many more to go", while British military historian John Keegan estimated the figure could be up to 1,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Casualties

Thank you Robert Fisk, thank you wael and 2cents, once again you demonstrate that you know not what you're talking about.

 

[John_Wensink]

Are you using that same excuse for all the killing the arabs are doing in Darfur?

Those Darfurians are occupying Darfur hence they need to be slaughtered by Arabs?

Quote from 2cents:

and you obviously didn't know that hizbollah "started a war"... which is ok, since they didn't... israel's just been an illegal occupier for what... 60+ years?

 

[dddooo]

Last but not the least:

Israel did not use depleted uranium during conflict with Hizbollah, UN agency finds

November 2006 – The United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) has found no evidence that Israel used munitions with depleted uranium (DU) during its conflict with Hizbollah

Reporting on the findings of a UNEP assessment carried out for three weeks in October, Achim Steiner said samples taken from 32 sites south and north of the Litani river found “no evidence of penetrators or metal made of DU or other radioactive material.”

He further stated that “no DU shrapnel, or other radioactive residue, was found. The analysis of all smear samples taken shows no DU, nor enriched uranium nor higher than natural uranium content in the samples.”

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20532&Cr=leban&Cr1

 

[sputdr]

Typical,

Muslims start war, muslims lose war, muslims cry it wasn't fair and they are victims.

Does anyone see a recurring theme here, God willing?

Quote from 2cents:

and you obviously didn't know that hizbollah "started a war"... which is ok, since they didn't... israel's just been an illegal occupier for what... 60+ years?

 

[2cents]

Quote from rcanfiel:

These weren't "nukes." the claim is they were uranium-bearing bombs.

The only ones who used nukes were the USA, but I am sure there are those who think it would be better to have had about 30 million Japanese and Allied casualties over taking the Japanese homeland, since the Japanese refused to surrender in all the other Pacific battles.

am glad u made the distinction yrself thanks... so, its ok to use uranium-bearing devices, right, dirty bombs etc?

Quote from dddooo:

The conflict began when Hezbollah fired Katyusha rockets and mortars at Israeli border villages, diverting attention from another Hezbollah unit that crossed into Israel, killed three Israeli soldiers, and took two others hostage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict
LOL, firing rockets, crossing the border, killing and kidnapping soldiers...These are not acts of war, right 2cents?

against an illegal occupier who is responsible for a 60+ years state of war in the area? of course they are, since u guys ARE at war anyway...

Quote from dddooo:

Oh and btw the following quote is not exactly accurate either:


The Lebanese civilian death toll is difficult to pinpoint as most published figures don't distinguish between civilians and militants, including those released by the Lebanese government.

Lebanese top police office...put the death toll at 1,123...Human Rights Watch, based on its own investigation, estimated the tally of the dead at 1,119, including civilians, military personnel and militants,[9] while the Associated Press estimated the figure at 1,035...

but

Israel estimated that its forces had killed 600 Hezbollah fighters.In addition, Israel claimed to have the names of 532 dead Hezbollah fighters. A UN official estimated that 500 Hezbollah fighters had been killed, and Lebanese government officials estimated that up to 500 had been killed. A Stratfor report cited "sources in Lebanon" as estimating the Hezbollah death toll at "more than 700... with many more to go", while British military historian John Keegan estimated the figure could be up to 1,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Casualties

Thank you Robert Fisk, thank you wael and 2cents, once again you demonstrate that you know not what you're talking about.

so whatcha saying brickhead? fisk is off by what, 10% or just about according to other sources... and thats supposed to make a huge difference to whatever he is asserting?

or could it just be that u guys at AIPAC don't like him much: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12865.htm
http://news.independent.co.uk/fisk/

Quote from John_Wensink:

Are you using that same excuse for all the killing the arabs are doing in Darfur?

Those Darfurians are occupying Darfur hence they need to be slaughtered by Arabs?

r u disputing that israel is an illegal occupier and has been for 60+ years?

Quote from sputdr:

Typical,

Muslims start war, muslims lose war, muslims cry it wasn't fair and they are victims.

Does anyone see a recurring theme here, God willing?

like, zionist denial?

 

[sputdr]

Quote from 2cents:
r u disputing that israel is an illegal occupier and has been for 60+ years?

like, zionist denial? [/B]

Why is it everytime muslims committ some crime they use isreal as an excuse to justify it?

There in lies the muslim problem, an absolute refusal to take responsibility for their own problems and actions.

Isreal isn't occupying pakistan, sudan, malaysia, the phillipines, somalia, morocco and all the other places they are causing problems are they??

The world needs to get together and put the muslim world over it's knee and give them a spanking they will never forget.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from 2cents:

against an illegal occupier who is responsible for a 60+ years state of war in the area? of course they are, since u guys ARE at war anyway...

First of all Israel is not 60 yet, it will be 60 one year from now, second the partition of Palestine was legal, third the occupation of the West Bank has also been legal according to UN resolution 242 which requires Israel to end the occupation only in exchange for peace, recognition and secure borders which the arab world has been rejecting.

More importantly Israel is not occupying legally or illegally a single inch of Lebanon, Israel was in full compliance with all UN resolutions on Lebanese territory when it was attacked by Hezbollah, its villages were shelled by Katyusha rockets and its soldiers were killed/kidnapped.

Sorry 2cents, your excuse that when Israel is attacked by a country it does not occupy it still is Israel's fault is absurd. But thank you for once again demonstrating the utter stupidity, ignorance and irrationality of Israel-haters.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from 2cents:

fisk is off by what, 10% or just about according to other sources... and thats supposed to make a huge difference to whatever he is asserting?

Fisk was off by 15-20%, most of those killed during the war were in fact Hezbollah militants, not innocent civilians and Israel according to the UN investigation did not use depleted uranium. Fisk lied, idiots believed, what else is new.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from dddooo:

Fisk was off by 15-20%, most of those killed during the war were in fact Hezbollah militants, not innocent civilians and Israel according to the UN investigation did not use depleted uranium. Fisk lied, idiots believed, what else is new.

What??? Are you serious??? How did you know dddooo??? Did you do a head count??

Buddy...take my word for it...You did not kill shit!

They chose the time and place to smoke your ass dddooo. And smoke your ass they did!!

You, in return, and as always, being the brave fighters you are, got pissed and decided to shower women and children with cluster and napalm bombs.

You, being the vindictive and sour loser zionist you are, decided to dump thousands of cluster bombs containing millions of bomblets on southern Lebanon in a clear display of the vengeful and sadistic mentality you zionist carry.

I asked you these questions before and I am asking you again.

Why is israel refusing UN's request for information about the locations of its cluster bomb strikes in Lebanon which is making their job of clearing them out out virtually impossible?

Why did you decide to dump 90% of these bomblets during the last 72 hours of the conflict and while the UN cease fire resolution was being approved??

 

[2cents]

Quote from sputdr:

Why is it everytime muslims committ some crime they use isreal as an excuse to justify it?

There in lies the muslim problem, an absolute refusal to take responsibility for their own problems and actions.

Isreal isn't occupying pakistan, sudan, malaysia, the phillipines, somalia, morocco and all the other places they are causing problems are they??

The world needs to get together and put the muslim world over it's knee and give them a spanking they will never forget.

the muslim "world"'s got BIG problems no question and i for one do believe that Islam is a major obstacle to ANY form of progress... http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1509226&highlight=fatwa#post1509226
as so is the american radical christian right / dominionist movement btw...
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1519616&highlight=dominionist#post1519616
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1499378&highlight=dominionist#post1499378

however this thread's about israel's nukes... trying to deflect the attention towards muslims, penguins etc only goes to show your lack of arguments...