my personal thoughts after 20 years of trading

[CSEtrader]

Yes he is closer , but can he achieve it within his lifetime - i am not sure about that. Depending on many circumstances: talent, money, personal situation, etc. it may take for most people a few lifetimes (which they of course do not have) to get to this goal.

In reality it does not matter

Trotsky ones said: "The ultimate goal is nothing, the movement to it is everything!"

Trotsky was not unique or original in this thoughts - life is a journey, not the goal, the only sure point of arrival is death, so enjoy every moment, Carpe Diem, "some years" before Trotsky was said.
Our Trader God just need to manage just temper, I believe, please, forgive me Trader God if I mistaken, but it is so classical for men not to bend their ego, to feel empowered when doing something and kind of useless when sitting quietly and this is how market taking all [rpfits.
While trading is absolutely not easy and is kind of metaphysical experience, it is much easier than to become flying Zen master, elevating yogi, where really more the one lifetime is needed. So, if there are courage and devotion, and Trader God have it, then with some discipline and patience, I believe everyone can achieve it and the world would be as in "Immagine", and "You will say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one!"

 

[MarketEater]

well there is a difference

he does not hate trading, unlike so many people who hate their job

so kudos to him for continue trying

Man, bro, stop enabling an addict. I bet u work for a broker or “educator” so u you must encourage such continuous destructive behavior.

 

[qxr1011]

Man, bro, stop enabling an addict. I bet u work for a broker or “educator” so u you must encourage such continuous destructive behavior.

oh yes i work for the Indian broker in Hyderabad

but speaking seriously: stop insinuating

if you disagree with me state your opinion and move on

why so many here when meet different opinion imidiately switch discussion from discussing the subject to discussing the opponent, his motives, believes, etc etc?

 

[Frederick Foresight]

paraphrasing Kennedy they did not go to trading because it was easy, they went they because its was hard

Say what? I don't think anyone pursues trading because it is hard. They do so because they perceive opportunity. That it also happens to be hard is a necessary evil to contend with rather than a central attraction that drew them in.

 

[qxr1011]

Like you said, many people stay in jobs they hate and relationships they are not happy with, if it were so easy to change something about it, why wouldn't they?

its not about easy

many men stay where they are and eat the shit there because of the obligations they have to fulfill: to their wife, to their parents, to their kids, to their country

that is the difference between the boys and the men: the man has obligations and real men fulfills them what ever the cost

that is why I do not fault so many who live and die and ordinary life , burying their dream in order to pay the mortgage, to raise the kids, etc etc.... and i do not think their life is wasted, i just wanted to show to the guy who raised the issue about the wasted life not to rush to judgement...

 

[Frederick Foresight]

i must say in Brooks defense that he has laid lot of emphasis on risk reward strategies, which i did not due to which i havd suffered.

All games of chance come down to risk and reward. What did you focus on if not on this?

 

[MarketEater]

its not about easy

many men stay where they are and eat the shit there bocause of obligation they have to fulfill, to their wife, to their parents, to their kids, to their country

that is the difference between the boy and the man: the man has obligations and real men fulfills them what ever the cost

that is why I do not fault so many who live and die and ordinary life , burying their dream in order to pay the mortgage, to raise the kids, etc etc.... and i do not think their life is wasted, i just wanted to show to the guy who raised and issue about wasted life, not to rush to judgement...

No personal attacks.

It has nothing to do about following a dream. The dream is what you want, the process is how you get there. Unfortunately, the process of trading can be highly addicting making your dream impossible to ever see for many

Whenever someone worships “educators” as op stated and has not seen success after 20 years; its our duty as fellow traders to try to help. Not feed the addiction.

Just think, had the op realized this a decede or more ago and pivoted to another business; the dream may have been his. Its never too late

 

[p0box4]

its not about easy

many men stay where they are and eat the shit there because of the obligations they have to fulfill: to their wife, to their parents, to their kids, to their country

that is the difference between the boys and the men: the man has obligations and real men fulfills them what ever the cost

that is why I do not fault so many who live and die and ordinary life , burying their dream in order to pay the mortgage, to raise the kids, etc etc.... and i do not think their life is wasted, i just wanted to show to the guy who raised the issue about the wasted life not to rush to judgement...

If i would live a life of constant misery as you described it before, i would do something about it. Doing something about is doesn't mean not obligating to your family/kids etc and giving up dreams for family and kids doesn't mean you have to live a miserable life, you are comparing apples to oranges here.

If you are spending a substantial amount of your time on doing something in which you are unsuccessful, then at some point it might be time to change something.
Being unsuccessful doesn't give you joyful moments and doesn't make you happy.
20 years is a long long time, you only have 1 life and can spend every minute only once.

And yes he might enjoy trading, but after al this time one should ask if the advantages are greater than the downsides. Enjoying himself sometimes vs feeling miserable for being unsuccessful, feeling miserable for losing money, emotional stress, ...

 

[qxr1011]

If i would live a life of constant misery as you described it before, i would do something about it. Doing something about is doesn't mean not obligating to your family/kids etc and giving up dreams for family and kids doesn't mean you have to live a miserable life, you are comparing apples to oranges here.

If you are spending a substantial amount of your time on doing something in which you are unsuccessful, then at some point it might be time to change something.
Being unsuccessful doesn't give you joyful moments and doesn't make you happy.
20 years is a long long time, you only have 1 life and can spend every minute only once.

And yes he might enjoy trading, but after al this time one should ask if the advantages are greater than the downsides. Enjoying himself sometimes vs feeling miserable for being unsuccessful, feeling miserable for losing money, emotional stress, ...

i think there should be no recommendations here like see help or change the dream, or suck up to the reality.... what possible here is just express the opinions

this is an issue that everybody decides for himself: what to dream, how long to fight for it

and what one called the addiction , another one called the perseverance, etc etc...

 

[qxr1011]

No personal attacks.

ok, i am glad you got the message

Just think, had the op realized this a decede or more ago and pivoted to another business; the dream may have been his.

may is a key word here, may be yes, may be not...

may be he does not want any other dream, like some men does want any other woman...

addiction? i do not care how its called