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11-14-05

gonna post a suggestion- and give it a B grade for potential profits.

buy PALM Dec05 30c @ .50-60

UPY LF


for some reason we see 7000 traded today- do we really believe that these were all small players buying OR that a large player --sold--- short calls at .65-70 today? Think about it -

prior open interest was 7000 and change.

do you guys also see 7000 volume today - or am I getting erroneous data? ?

stock 'could' be moved lower with expiry pressure-- manana

Ice
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anyone have PALM on their radar screen? There is a large gap from 9-23-05---- doubtful it will be filled soon-- but it could trade into said abyss -- perhaps to 30-31+ !

:D:D:

only thing I don't like is how the Dec 30c did not budge much with today's decent move - of course now the vola is down and gamma up-- so maybe it's a better entry point IF you don't want the stock or ITM calls--

or LEAPS

:D :D :D :D :D
 
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with all due respect-- I'm sure you have more insight than 90% of the ET.com members - including (with all due respect) "cnms"! Personally I like your LEAPS strategy.
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--- lots of critics and "ANALysts" - but few traders-- and few input as to strategies that can and will work when utilized by experienced and nimble traders!
You can't be sure, I'm sorry. I used hankster's strategy in the past, and unfortunately for me it is the strategy I lost the most money with. I'd like for others to learn from my experience without repeating it.

Regarding strategies that can and will work: there is no strategy that works over all the market conditions. More, all options strategies start with a negative expectancy due to slippage and commissions. This doesn't mean you shouldn't trade options, it just means that you can't use only one strategy over all the market conditions and issues. I disagree with anybody that claims that you can use sytematically the same options strategy and constantly make money of it. Obviously I may be wrong, but I feel it is my duty to share my opinion with those that think otherwise, hoping that they'll not repeat mistakes that they can avoid.

Currently I'm trading only front or back month slightly in the money straight calls and puts, or vertical spreads (long itm / short otm, when iv is higher). They work well for me, and they are the strategies I recommend to anybody who asks.

But independently of the strategy anybody uses, I recommend to use defensive money management (position sizing). I mean by this to not risk more than 2% of your trading account on any individual position (I use 1%), and not to risk more than 6% on all your position opened at any given time. But be careful, this is less than your maximum risk you take, and you should have that in mind too.

Hand in hand with this I recommend to write down a trading plan before opening any position. This has to spell out clearly what is your stop loss, and based on it you should calculate the size of your position that meats the 2% maximum risk. Then never open a larger position than your calculated size.

Immediately after opening your position I recommend to place your hard stop orders, and not to rely on mental stop orders.

One final basic recommendation is to calculate your planned position reward / risk ratio before opening it, and if this ratio is less than 1, not to open that position.

Obviously these are my opinions, and others will disagree with me. I'd feel that I met my goal if at least some of the people reading this post would spend a little thought on it.

Don't take my word if you don't feel like doing so, but study, read books, discuss with others with an open mind, be flexible and wise.

With all due respect too ... :)
 
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11-16-05
BBY

suggest getting into calls - earlier lows was a great entry level

I tried to sell Dec 42.50p - didn't get my price -- was going to spread against March 42.5p - with intent to roll up -

its my "belief" that BBY will trade above 45 - and then be marked to the 47 level.

the sell off in the stock was news and expiry related - it still remains to be seen how the Holiday season will pan out. It could gap above 50- who the H knows :D

anyone get into BBY calls when it was <.44?

hit 46.85 today--

of course there WAS risk involved in the trade -

:eek:

hopefully no one bought LEAPS since they never make any money- -- that's what we hear ! :p

Ice
:cool:
 
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her's an example of cnms2 finding fault with a suggestion ((I happened to make)--- to buy OVTI March06 15c when they were -- 75-80c (I will post that recommendation later)-- and the stock was 12.30 --

check out he bid price on those calls

"that were risky to buy now "

according to ANALyst -- --- cnms1
iceman1, sorry that you're still unhappy with my suggestion. I still don't find anything wrong with it. I stand by those comments.

I disregard your ANAL comment. It's sad when you can't find arguments and you have to use derogatory language. Really sad ...
 
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iceman1, sorry that you're still unhappy with my suggestion. I still don't find anything wrong with it. I stand by those comments.

I disregard your ANAL comment. It's sad when you can't find arguments and you have to use derogatory language. Really sad ...

to me "anal" means someone who looks for prefection in all things related to trading and the markets--- and like "ANALysts" and many quant geniuses-- are usually wrong since the obvious and well-known doesn't always pan out anyway-- even when the risk seems low--- !
 
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I also posted this as a follow-up on 11-03-05-- I said

"16-17 also doable"

what's today's price? yep it was risky--- up almost 40% in how long?

by the way--- next time anyone on this thread finds any trade or investment without ANY risk-- please let the rest of us ---and for sure cnms2----- know about it -STAT!
I don't understand why you're so unhappy with my posts. If you don't like them please ignore them. If you want to discuss them please do so with counter arguments.

If you have a better method of forecasting prices, please share it. Just shooting from the hip possible prices doesn't help me to learn anything.

Some people found useful some of my posts, you didn't. I wish you well, and to never regret discounting my risk wise recommendations.
 
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anyone get into BBY calls when it was <.44?

hit 46.85 today--

of course there WAS risk involved in the trade -

:eek:

hopefully no one bought LEAPS since they never make any money- -- that's what we hear ! :p

Ice
:cool:

b.t.w - judging by the pricing on BBY calls and puts- it's my "belief" that BBY is still headed northeast ----- into next week and perhaps right up until its earnings release on Dec 13th
 
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anyone get into BBY calls when it was <.44?

hit 46.85 today--

of course there WAS risk involved in the trade -

:eek:

hopefully no one bought LEAPS since they never make any money- -- that's what we hear ! :p

Ice
:cool:
iceman1, I'd like to make use of your good trade suggestions, but I can't as long as you don't clearly state what position to put on, and what's its time frame and profit target (at least).
 
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iceman1, I'd like to make use of your good trade suggestions, but I can't as long as you don't clearly state what position to put on, and what's its time frame and profit target (at least).


its hard to type all of that during market hours -- better sutied for IM or phone
 
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