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Big difference.
With real trades you have FEAR and GREED which can cause you to trade differently than with hypothetical trades.
well it certainly is bullish as far as price itself goes. But that price was made without alot of gasoline on the fire. I have never used DMI. Enlighten me, does it measure only price in it's calculations or does it also incorporate some sort of volume analysis in conjunction with price in it's calculation? I suspect it is purely price driven.Quote from cnms2:
Your reading confirms my divergences. I'm curious if my DMI reading, that the uptrend will resume will be accurate.
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They have some specific risks and drawbacks. The first ones that cross my mind are:
- they are rich in premium making them very susceptible to IV adverse changes (IV decrease when you're long, or IV increase when you're short); this is the vega risk
- they have a higher IV than shorter term options (higher probability for wider range variation); this gradually decreases over their life
- they can be adversely affected by dividend and interest rate changes, and there is a higher chance for it to happen over a longer period
- they have high slippage, and lower liquidity
- you can lose a lot of premium in case of takeover or bankruptcy
- as the underlying price varies over the long life of the LEAPS, you'll have to roll them to adjust your risk and to re-tune your position to the new underlying price range; this is an additional expense due to the high slippage; i.e. you open a calendar having an ITM LEAP for the long leg; as the underlying price changes your LEAP will go more ITM or may go OTM, so in the following months to continue your strategy you'll have to roll it to rebuild the risk characteristic required by your strategy.
I can't really think of any instance in which LEAPS offer any advantage to the retail trader. [/B]
If your time frame is only one week you'd better play the front month options one or two strikes in-the-money. As you go further from the money the LEAPS delta increases / decreases much slower than for the shorter term options. It means that the underlying price change might not suffice to even cover the high slippage of the LEAPS. Also, LEAPS having substantial higher premium (time value) your investment will be much higher.Quote from mhashe:
cnms2 Thank you for your outline. The idea is to take advantage of chart reading abilities and take outright directional trades for a holding period of no more than a week. The logic is that if the short-term directional call is correct in the first place, then if the stock should drop for a few days after the trade is entered, LEAPS may lose their value but will regain most of the loss and more once the stocks starts trending in the desired direction. The premise is that once the stocks breaks out of a base, you can rely on a short-covering rally to propel the value of the LEAPS higher. I will do some homework on the downside conditions you kindly outlined.
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Not sure: I heard that MM use LEAPS to skim newbies' money... I know that others use them in conjunction with stock buying / shorting for collars, etc..Quote from qiuniu:
When I first looked at them I just couldn't get over the premiums and the things that could happen (interest rates, scandal) over the long haul that I just walked away scratching my head.
What do pros use these things for anyway?
It is purely based on price, and I've just started to look at it because several good / great traders claim to use it. It is useful for trend playing.Quote from pinabetal:
well it certainly is bullish as far as price itself goes. But that price was made without alot of gasoline on the fire. I have never used DMI. Enlighten me, does it measure only price in it's calculations or does it also incorporate some sort of volume analysis in conjunction with price in it's calculation? I suspect it is purely price driven.
If it is pure price driven and a viable way to confirm trend then as long as volume confirmed what it was saying then it possibly could be useful. However, I would always look at what volume, range, and close is doing and correlate that with any reading. Nevertheless, there are times when the market goes up on lower volume. But I would argue that most of the time rallys are accompanied with a volume increase but of course not always. So MOST of the time uptrends need volume to be sustainable. And this is a game of probabilities. In this particular case I would risk saying that volume probally isn't confirming DMI but tommorrow we will know for sure!Quote from cnms2:
It is purely based on price, and I've just started to look at it because several good / great traders claim to use it. It is useful for trend playing.
This stock has low option opened interest. I think that Cluseau mentioned it from the beginning, and it is better to trade the underlying. Otherwise its IV is 35%, just came down from 45%, so long calls / puts would be ok.Quote from pinabetal:
LYO should make a lower low than oct 31st low on Nov 1. Sorry Cluseau but I see weakness there. Will I have to continue drinking coffee since i don't smoke?
The volume, hence the Chaikin Money Flow, is part of the short term bearish divergence I see.Quote from pinabetal:
If it is pure price driven and a viable way to confirm trend then as long as volume confirmed what it was saying then it possibly could be useful. However, I would always look at what volume, range, and close is doing and correlate that with any reading. Nevertheless, there are times when the market goes up on lower volume. But I would argue that most of the time rallys are accompanied with a volume increase but of course not always. So MOST of the time uptrends need volume to be sustainable. And this is a game of probabilities. In this particular case I would risk saying that volume probally isn't confirming DMI but tommorrow we will know for sure!