My next motherboard

[inflector]

Once I got the machine all ready and turned it on, I was shocked by how noisy this thing is!!!! This is by FAR the noisest machine I have, and that is saying something, and that is only with two of the four CPUs in!!! :eek:

I've got the same issue with my 3.2Mhz Prescott Pentium which generates something like 250 watts when running full tilt. The fan required to keep it operating at any reasonable temperature is really loud. I've got a variable speed fan that I keep on medium speed, which is not too loud, but then turn up if I'm doing large CPU intensive tasks.

I'm seriously considering a water cooler just so I don't have that $%& fan noise, or have to screw around with a manual fan speed adjustment.

- Curtis

 

[Bob111]

Quote from inflector:

I've got the same issue with my 3.2Mhz Prescott Pentium which generates something like 250 watts when running full tilt. The fan required to keep it operating at any reasonable temperature is really loud. I've got a variable speed fan that I keep on medium speed, which is not too loud, but then turn up if I'm doing large CPU intensive tasks.

I'm seriously considering a water cooler just so I don't have that $%& fan noise, or have to screw around with a manual fan speed adjustment.

- Curtis

that main reason for me to change CPU fans. i also got prescott retail with sink and fan.loud as vacuum cleaner. replace it with fans from my previous post and got significant difference in noise and also operating temperature.

 

[gnome]

Quote from Bob111:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=35-186-106&DEPA=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=35-186-102&DEPA=0

i use those. works nice and quet. i did install few others (actually more expansive fans) for someone else, but they not that quiet. i would recommend it,specially last one. read reviews. best when used with Arctic Silver 5.

In addition to their lines of "quiet" PSUs, they also have quiet CPU and case fans.

www.silenx.com

 

[LivermoreRisen]

The items i listed are items I already purchased. I have had bad experiences with AMD in the past and have since used primarily intel chipsets. The case that I bought has a temperature gauge and many fans that come along with it. The intel chip I bought comes with a heat sink but the motherboard does not. Do I need another fan even though my case comes with so many fans? Do i need a fan for my motherboard as well as a fan for my CPU? Is the heatsink enough for the CPU or do i need to buy another fan just for the CPU even though my case comes with many fans? Thanks for your help. Also, to trade do you think the system i am getting is good enough? Do i need more ram than just 512 mb? What about a bigger hard drive? Anything else I may have forgot about that I will also need?

Also, i am thinking about installing a TV Tuner card. Which one would be the best? I have digital cable: will i need a box to get the major financial channels like Bloomberg and CNBC?

Thanks a lot.

Quote from prophet:

That case you selected is part steel, part aluminum with an acrylic or lexan window. Those windows are a bad idea... purely for looks. They allow radio frequency interference (say from a nearby cell phone) and insulate the case interior, which is what you DON’T want in a case. Better to get a no-frills all-aluminum case with no window or a metal grill or screen in place of the window. Speaking of aluminum, everyone knows that aluminum is much lighter than steel and won’t rust. The other major advantage is thermal conductivity. You can feel the difference in case temperature between steel and aluminum cases. A steel case is cool to the touch because it insulates and traps heat. An aluminum case is much warmer to the touch, radiating more heat.

I put my dual Opteron in an all aluminum case, the Antec Lanboy (silly name) purchased without a power supply (I supplied a 550W) for $65. http://www.nexushardware.com/articles/index.php?id=11
I replaced the lexan window with a metal screen. The result is an extremely well ventilated and lightweight case. Don't worry that the review says this case is flimsy. While not as strong as a steel case, it's at least as strong as the strongest notebooks. Who needs a case that can be thrown around anyway?

Have you considered an Athlon or Opteron processor instead of a Pentium? You’ll definitely get more bang for your buck, and a much cooler and quieter system with an AMD chip.

I would get two identical hard drives and set them up in a RAID 0 mirroring configuration. I had a hard drive suddenly crash (grind loudly then die) last week. I tend to prefer Seagate drives for their reliability. I've never had one fail. The drive that crashed was a toshiba 2.5" notebook drive.

 

[Bob111]

read about CPU,motherboard operating temperatures. usually there is utility comes with mb,which will show you cpu temp,fan rpm's, etc. run few tests under no load, heavy load.if temperature holds steady within normal range and noise level is acceptable for you-then -there is no reason for more\different fans.

 

[gnome]

Quote from LivermoreRisen:

The items i listed are items I already purchased. I have had bad experiences with AMD in the past and have since used primarily intel chipsets. The case that I bought has a temperature gauge and many fans that come along with it. The intel chip I bought comes with a heat sink but the motherboard does not. Do I need another fan even though my case comes with so many fans? Do i need a fan for my motherboard as well as a fan for my CPU? Is the heatsink enough for the CPU or do i need to buy another fan just for the CPU even though my case comes with many fans? Thanks for your help. Also, to trade do you think the system i am getting is good enough? Do i need more ram than just 512 mb? What about a bigger hard drive? Anything else I may have forgot about that I will also need?

Also, i am thinking about installing a TV Tuner card. Which one would be the best? I have digital cable: will i need a box to get the major financial channels like Bloomberg and CNBC?

Thanks a lot.

I'd suggest putting your rig together and checking the temperature. You can always add more cooling, if necessary.

Try with 512 RAM... likely enough.

As for TV tuner card... ATI is the Big Dog in the US. All In Wonder cards are TV tuner plus display. TV Wonder are separate, TV only. I've had several All In Wonder cards and they are quite fine.

You'll just plug your cable feed directly into the card... no external box. CNBS is widly carried, Bloomberg less so. If your cable feed has it, you can view it.

 

[LivermoreRisen]

Quote from gnome:

I'd suggest putting your rig together and checking the temperature. You can always add more cooling, if necessary.

Try with 512 RAM... likely enough.

As for TV tuner card... ATI is the Big Dog in the US. All In Wonder cards are TV tuner plus display. TV Wonder are separate, TV only. I've had several All In Wonder cards and they are quite fine.

You'll just plug your cable feed directly into the card... no external box. CNBS is widly carried, Bloomberg less so. If your cable feed has it, you can view it.

I remember I was only able to catch bloomberg after I got a cable box; this will probably be the case with the tv tuner card as well. Also, what do you mean by tv tuner PLUS DISPLAY? Thanks.

 

[LivermoreRisen]

Quote from Bob111:

read about CPU,motherboard operating temperatures. usually there is utility comes with mb,which will show you cpu temp,fan rpm's, etc. run few tests under no load, heavy load.if temperature holds steady within normal range and noise level is acceptable for you-then -there is no reason for more\different fans.

Sounds like a good idea but i don't want to see normal range in all loads and my motherboard is, unbeknownst to me, burining up and out despite the normal readings. You know what i mean? I just want to be sure that I have the proper cooling from the get go. THanks.

 

[nitro]

Quote from JackR:

I'd suggest going to the "device" manufacturers and checking for more recent drivers. I've found that the MS provided drivers are often earlier versions and sometimes there is significant performance improvement with the newer drivers. On the other hand ...... Of course changing drivers is relatively painless.

Thanks for the tip. This mboard is so new that Windows and Tyans drivers are the same.

nitro

 

[nitro]

Quote from inflector:

I've got the same issue with my 3.2Mhz Prescott Pentium which generates something like 250 watts when running full tilt. The fan required to keep it operating at any reasonable temperature is really loud. I've got a variable speed fan that I keep on medium speed, which is not too loud, but then turn up if I'm doing large CPU intensive tasks.

I'm seriously considering a water cooler just so I don't have that $%& fan noise, or have to screw around with a manual fan speed adjustment.

- Curtis

You have to remember - these machines don't just have the typical number of fans in them. Not only will there be the four fans on top of the CPUs, there are several 9mm blowers which are the culprits of all the noise, as well as other fans around the case. It is not simply an issue of reducing the fan speed of the CPUs, which I would never do.

nitro