Must see: The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Tarl_Cabot]

The most significant thing in the film, the thing that anyone who is a Trader can understand, is...

Since the point where investigation of Global Warming began, the number of jobs for climatologists increased TEN TIMES.

So, 90% of climatologists chose that career in order to get jobs in Global Warming.

What is the chance that those people are going to say "Please make me unemployed because there really is no man-made Global Warming". Regardless of the scientific facts, there is zero chance they are going to say that.

Ironically, all the Global Warming adherents open themselves to this argument every time they say "all deniers must be being paid by the oil companies". If they are saying that income and employment is overiding the science for the scientists who are "deniers", then certainly the same must be true for the scientists who are "believers" - the same human nature is present in both cases.

So, the Global Warming Adherents are themselves removing the entire scientific basis for their viewpoint by claiming that scientists' personal conflicts of interest must be taken into account. All climatologists have an automatic conflict of interest...

 

[ssternlight]

Quote from Bitstream:

of course it is hard to reconcile, if all planets are warming means there's a pattern, and that the sun is playing a part....maybe the only part. i dont know. since u did the necessary research, how much of a difference is there between changes in earth's temps and mars or other plantes.

Here's an article from last year:

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2006/2005GL025539.shtml

25%-35% over the last 25 years is the estimate that's attributable to solar warming in the paper...

That's a lot of global warming that isn't attributable to solar effects.

 

[stevegee58]

Quote from ssternlight:

Here's an article from last year:

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2006/2005GL025539.shtml

"anthropogenic-added climate forcing"

What an excellent phrase.

 

[mnx]

I'd have to agree with you here. Global warming or not, there are plenty of other good reasons to conserve energy, carpool, etc...


-mnx

Quote from Runningbear:

If you want proof that vehicle emmisions are bad for you, go suck on a car exhaust pipe for 3 minutes and see how you feel.

It's not just about Co2. It's also about pumping billions of litres of carcinogenic chemicals into the air we breathe.

No one can legitimately claim that exhaust fumes are healthy.

Runningbear

 

[yonglee]

Quote from Thunderdog:

True. But it takes time to describe the backgrounds of the duplicitous bastards who are arguing against global warming and/or its causes. Even so, you must admit it was gratifying to watch them scurrying for cover on camera.

thanks. You are also another one who watched it. It's good to share.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Tarl_Cabot:

Game, Set, and Match.

Congratulations on a most propitious victory. How unfortunate, however, that you should find yourself on the wrong court, holding a hockey stick.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from Jon Frum:

Weren't you guys trying to save the rain forests awhile back ? What happened to your concern for plants since then ?

Brazil is burning Rain Forests to make charcoal. Primitive low lifes.

John

 

[Bitstream]

yeah, no much of an incentive for any scientist to question gW and that's one of the big problem with this whole affair.

Quote from Tarl_Cabot:

The most significant thing in the film, the thing that anyone who is a Trader can understand, is...

Since the point where investigation of Global Warming began, the number of jobs for climatologists increased TEN TIMES.

So, 90% of climatologists chose that career in order to get jobs in Global Warming.

What is the chance that those people are going to say "Please make me unemployed because there really is no man-made Global Warming". Regardless of the scientific facts, there is zero chance they are going to say that.

Ironically, all the Global Warming adherents open themselves to this argument every time they say "all deniers must be being paid by the oil companies". If they are saying that income and employment is overiding the science for the scientists who are "deniers", then certainly the same must be true for the scientists who are "believers" - the same human nature is present in both cases.

So, the Global Warming Adherents are themselves removing the entire scientific basis for their viewpoint by claiming that scientists' personal conflicts of interest must be taken into account. All climatologists have an automatic conflict of interest...

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Runningbear:

...No one can legitimately claim that exhaust fumes are healthy...

Why not? Many of the same lobbyists and "scientists" who denied a direct relationship between smoking and cancer are now the principal detractors of either the existence or cause of global warming.

 

[ssternlight]

Quote from Bitstream:

yeah, no much of an incentive for any scientist to question gW and that's one of the big problem with this whole affair.

Dude,

Researchers have been funded by oil companies for years to disprove the theory and have failed. It's been peer reviewed to death by the scientific community and, based on our knowledge today, there actually is a general consensus about the matter.

I really don't follow what you are pushing here. What's your strategy -- wait and see?