there's no such thing as a consenus. that's what u have been led to believe by the ipcc with its biased and poorly researched document. u are also wrong about the glaciers. father of gW says so and he changed his mind recently after he did more research. all i can tell u is dig deeper, not all things are as they appear to be or as u have been told the are, there is an agenda in place and skeptic scientists are either silenced or threatened with losing thier jobs...skeptics have been even compared to holocaust deniers, go figure.
Opposition To Global Warming
Severely Suppressed
Silenced Global Warming Critics Expose Gore's Hoax
By Lawrence Hecht
Executive Intelligence Review
3-9-7
Sources: Daily Mail, Canada Post and Others 3-5-7
The Gore climate machine loves to claim that there is no scientific opposition to their human-caused global warming fraud. It's a lie. The real truth is that anyone who criticizes it is either misrepresented or silenced. Some examples:
** Prof. Paul Reiter of the Pasteur Institute in Paris said the list of scientists endorsing the recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report was a "sham," because it included the names of panel scientists who disagreed with its exaggerated climate predictions. Reiter, an expert in malaria, told the London Daily Mail that he only got his name removed after he threatened a lawsuit. "That is how they make it seem that all the top scientists are agreed," Prof. Reiter said. In a report in the Jan.-Feb. 2000 issue of {Emerging Infectious Diseases}, Reiter showed that the claim that the increase in malaria was due to climate change was absurd. Dr. Reiter contributed a Viewpoint to {21st Century Science}, Winter 2003.
** Senior French physicist and pioneer of isotope studies Claude Allegre came out against global warming last September, after having been one of its most outspoken proponents for over 15 years. His case is featured today in Canada's National Post, in an ongoing series called "The Deniers." Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre, had been among the 1,500 scientists who signed a highly publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are very great." But last September, in an article in {l'Express} ("The Snows of Kilimanjaro"), Allegre said that the retreat of the Kilimanjaro glacier had nothing to do with human-produced carbon dioxide, and also pointed to growth in the Antarctic glacier. There is no basis for saying, as most do, that the "science is settled," he said. A member of the U.S. and French Academies of Science, Allegre is a pioneer in the field of isotope geodynamics, a method of dating past events like the formation of the atmosphere, by isotope signatures. He participated in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the age of the Moon. Allegre is also a leading figure in the Socialist Party and served as Education Minister.
** Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor is under threat of losing his job for arguing that most climate change is the result of natural variations, not human-produced carbon dioxide. Despite threats from the Governor and a pending bill in the legislatures to have him removed, sponsored by Democratic State Sen. Brad Avakian, Taylor has held firm. "If the facts change, I'll change my mind. So far, I haven't," Taylor told a climate change conference at Oregon State University. Taylor has held the title of "state climatologist" since 1991, when the legislature created a state climate office at OSU.
** Chris Landsea, one of the world's foremost experts on hurricanes, resigned from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in January 2005, in protest over their bias. He wrote an open letter shortly before the issuance of the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report. Dr Kevin Trenberth, the lead author of a part of the IPCC report had participated in a press conference claiming the 2004 Atlantic hurricane season was caused by greenhouse gases. Wrote Landsea: "To my knowledge none of the participants in that press conference had performed any research on hurricane variability, nor were they reporting on any new work in the field. All previous and current research in the area of hurricane variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic or any other basin."
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I've been through this one with my Dad -- who is about as conservative as they come. It's a right wing talking point and has nothing to do with the facts of the current matter. The stuff from the 70's did not reflect the views of the scientific community of the times -- although many "right wing" types are trying to make it out to be the case.
If you are really doubtful take a look at the pictures showing the change in glaciers worldwide. The planet is warming. There is no doubt about that. People might debate the causes but the fact of the warming is incontrovertible.
Now is it so hard to do something nice for the next generation and consume more wisely just in case we are at fault?
This is just my $.02 but it takes an incredibly arrogant egotistical person to say I don't care just in the face of the glaciation evidence.
