MUSLIMS Threaten California Church with “Allahu Akbars” During Sunday Mass

What do you think the people shouting them at a Catholic Church meant? Two weeks after a priest had his head cut off in his church?

You don't even know if muslims shouted those words, whether it was high jinks, or whether it was someone making their own voice heard after a bunch of armed christian nutcases had previously shouted some shit or other over a megaphone outside a mosque somewhere.
Like I say, to you, they mean whatever you want them to. You can choose them and pretty much any similar words or excuse to hate, demonize, marginalize or encourage sectarianism against any group you don't like.
 
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You appear to be unaware that the term is a Sunni Arabic expression originally. You should ask the originators for a proper translation.
Irrelevant.
All muslims use the term Allahu as - 'God is'..or maybe sometimes 'the God is..'
Any Sunni or a group of them can say it means whatever they want. It still doesn't change the fact that "Our god.." is not its normal, general, or broad usage or meaning, historically or etymologically.
 
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You don't even know if muslims shouted those words, whether it was high jinks, or whether it was someone making their own voice heard after a bunch of armed christian nutcases had previously shouted some shit or other over a megaphone outside a mosque somewhere.
Like I say, to you, they mean whatever you want them to. You can choose them and pretty much any similar words or excuse to hate, demonize, marginalize or encourage sectarianism against any group you don't like.




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In Georgia, an India-born Muslim named Malik Waliyani bought a gas station and convenience store a few months ago and was horrified when it was recently burglarized and damaged. He struggled to keep it going. But then the nearby Smoke Rise Baptist Church heard what had happened.

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You don't even know if muslims shouted those words, whether it was high jinks

True, I don't. I suspect the government will not make it a priority to find out either.

Certainly you would agree though that if it were muslims, that it borders on terroristic threats.

The earlier questions about whether it is reasonable to use deadly force when one hears this shouted is a reasonable issue, considering that it frequently precedes some muslim horror. If I happened to be walking by that church or was in the parking lot and heard it and I was carrying, I would certainly prepare to draw my weapon.
 
Irrelevant.
All muslims use the term Allahu as - 'God is'..or maybe sometimes 'the God is..'
Any Sunni or a group of them can say it means whatever they want. It still doesn't change the fact that "Our god.." is not its normal, general, or broad usage or meaning, historically or etymologically.


I have an idea. Next time someone shouts All$3! Ak#^! in a crowed room full of soft targets, we should stop and ask the shouter what exactly was meant by the term. We should not have to wait long for the answer.

Otherwise, if the 'our god' flavor of the term is not built in to the grammar, it is certainly implied. It's a lot like shouting 'the Denver Broncos are great!' in the midst of Seattle Seahawks fans. The implication is *our team is the greatest!*, and is meant to inflame the #Twelves. Saying "god is great!" is generic, a lot like saying "football is a great game!".
 
True, I don't. I suspect the government will not make it a priority to find out either.

Certainly you would agree though that if it were muslims, that it borders on terroristic threats.

The earlier questions about whether it is reasonable to use deadly force when one hears this shouted is a reasonable issue, considering that it frequently precedes some muslim horror. If I happened to be walking by that church or was in the parking lot and heard it and I was carrying, I would certainly prepare to draw my weapon.

In some ways I don't disagree. That shout has become synonymous with radical extremist muslim terrorists. Whether that's rational or reasonable is another thing altogether.

These days, any muslim or anyone else for that matter with any kind of sense would not indiscriminately shout that out in a public place especially around a church. No more than any crazed christian should similarly shout 'jesus is lord' near a mosque or in a crowded place. You might also expect that to be followed by the emptying of a semi automatic into an innocent crowd.

However, I think the point is really that pussies are going to piss their pants if they see their own shadow and they'll spread pussyness to every other person around them if they can - and the comparatively few radical extremist muslim terrorists delight in that, in comparison to the vast numbers of muslims who actually do not.

Over reacting in a rush to deadly force without any reference to context just because some idiot uses certain words, or they shouted something out loud, is exactly what extremists want to exploit. Fear, hatred and division. To change perception, the way of life, to that of one of dread and loathing.

Allahu Akbar is chanted billions of times a day without constituting any threat. At the California church violence did not follow, nor did it mean that from those words any would.
 
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