MUSLIMS Threaten California Church with “Allahu Akbars” During Sunday Mass

for stu..

part 2. - regarding the lack of science showing man made co2 causes warming....

I am not the one saying man made co2 causes warming ... your team is.
We have every right to point out there is no peer reviewed science other than old papers with failed models which show man made co2 causing warming.

If you are asserting something scientific you should have some science showing it to be correct.


part 3.. you are the troll who wrote...this...


"There is plenty of science showing life from non life
It's called abiogenesis.
Your mindless denial does not make it go away."

I point out that the top scientist (or one of them) in the field states we don't know how non life evolved in to life. Whether its chemical or not is not the point. the point is we don't know or in the vernacular... we don't have a complete plausible pathway. Excuse me for using the language the nobel prize winner used. Had I not been using it... you would be bullshitting about semantics.

4. regarding manning up... this is a thread on the internet. No one knows when or how we would man up in real life. I doubt you guys are really the faggot big govt drones in real life you portray yourselves to be here. Otherwise I would tell you to show some back bone... tell the truth and stand up to federal govt when you should.

For instance in CA we are about nullify federal govt pot law. Telling the feds to shove go where the sun does not shine when it comes to making pot illegal. I fully support the left manning up on that issue. You all should try it. I think we all should consider showing some backbone and returning to the more classic liberalism of the 60s and before. lets all man up and tell soros and his clinton puppet to get lost.
 
For jerm;

Government is good. Very good.

The numbers of the universe work out because all points were one point at one point. It's really that simple.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas and man made global warming is a scientific fact as much as that cigarettes are unhealthy.

Life evolved from non-life. That is clearly true.




So you can stop being a troll now.
 
some govt is necessary.... communist govt is horrible and anti liberty and freedom. out govt is progressing towards that. That is why you call yourselves progressive. You are no longer classical liberals.

the standard model of physics is extremely fine tuned. no educated person denies that. are you educated? its has a few more than 20 constants tuned to over 30 decimal places. If you can't comprehend how "unnatural" that is you have no business typing here.

co2 is a greenhouse gas... by definition. Whether man made co2 is causing warming is a question for science. If you had an science showing man made co2 causes warming... you would produce it. You certainly don't have any peer reviewed science showing man made co2 is causing warming in our atmosphere. because none exists. So you have been lying your ass off.

Life probably did evolve from non life. But it could have come from pan spermia. It could be because the building blocks of life were programmed to combine into life. It would be nice if science had a complete pathway of how that happened. It does not so you and your friend stu were lying your asses off.
 
gwb-trading said:
Why don't you go ask a Sunni Muslim who speak Arabic as their native tongue to translate it for you.

While you are at it ask them to translate "Jihad" for you and see if you can get this correct.
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I'm sure you're not that naive.

I can ask a Sunni Muslim to translate their native tongue then another to do the same and get different answers. I can ask a Shia or Wahabi to translate for me and get more different answers and distortions of the word .

I can ask a Catholic and then a Protestant and then another of the endless christian sects to translate or explain what the word 'trinity' means in English and get a miriad of answers and explanations and plenty of distortion of the word's meaning.

It is the etymology of a word which gives me study into sources and development and reasonable usage of any word. And there is nothing Arabic that has Allahu as 'Our god is..' as you said. There is nothing in its general usage in Arabic either that refers to 'Our god'.

I appreciate you may have been told differently, but if you are not particularly au fait with something I suggest you do your own research after someone has told you about it, even if it is to do with Arabic words from someone in Arab lands.

For people like AAA, the words mean whatever they want to associate them with, irrespective of what 1.5 billion other muslims who aren't terrorists use them for.
 
stu said:
I'm sure you're not that naive.

I can ask a Sunni Muslim to translate their native tongue then another to do the same and get different answers. I can ask a Shia or Wahabi to translate for me and get more different answers and distortions of the word .

I can ask a Catholic and then a Protestant and then another of the endless christian sects to translate or explain what the word 'trinity' means in English and get a miriad of answers and explanations and plenty of distortion of the word's meaning.

It is the etymology of a word which gives me study into sources and development and reasonable usage of any word. And there is nothing Arabic that has Allahu as 'Our god is..' as you said. There is nothing in its general usage in Arabic either that refers to 'Our god'.

I appreciate you may have been told differently, but if you are not particularly au fait with something I suggest you do your own research after someone has told you about it, even if it is to do with Arabic words from someone in Arab lands.

For people like AAA, the words mean whatever they want to associate them with, irrespective of what 1.5 billion other muslims who aren't terrorists use them for.
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You appear to be unaware that the term is a Sunni Arabic expression originally. You should ask the originators for a proper translation.

While we are at it ask them to translate Jihad for you.
 
stu trolls his ass off and then argues with dictionaries.
I would be surprised if he had this one right.
his Trinity quote analogy was off because it is considered a miracle and something humans can't understand.... which is why there may be myriad attempts at explanation.


That is most likely a very different situation than what allahu ackbar means.
But... I will say I have no understanding of the words other that many muslim terrorists say it when they kill.





gwb-trading said:
You appear to be unaware that the term is a Sunni Arabic expression originally. You should ask the originators for a proper translation.

While we are at it ask them to translate Jihad for you.
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stu said:
For people like AAA, the words mean whatever they want to associate them with, irrespective of what 1.5 billion other muslims who aren't terrorists use them for.
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What do you think the people shouting them at a Catholic Church meant? Two weeks after a priest had his head cut off in his church?
 
It seems there has been no unified definition of God yet among worldwide Muslims. Just my guess!

This one seems especially scientific: " Hurufiyya– who believed God is incarnated in every atom, reminiscent of the Alevi-Bektashism. " And reasonable too! Just 2 cents!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#cite_note-92

Denominations
Main articles: Islamic denominations and History of Islam

Historically, Islam was divided into three major religious denominations well known as Sunni, Khawarij and Shī‘ah. In the modern era, Sunnis constitute more than 85% of the overall Muslim population while the Shi'as are slightly more than 12%.[14]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_Shia_sects

The following is a list of extinct sects of Shia Islam. These branches of Shi'i are thought no longer to have any living followers or practitioners.

Ghulat sects

Bazighiyya– who believed that Ja'far al-Sadiq was God.
Dhammiyya– who believed that Ali was God and Muhammad was his appointed Messenger and Prophet.
Ghurabiyya– who believed the angel Gabriel was mistaken when passing on the prophecy to Muhammad instead of Ali.
Ya’furiyya– who believed in reincarnation and that a man named Mu’ammar al-Kufi was their Lord.
Kaysanites– who believed in the Imamate of Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah after the death of Husayn Ibn 'Ali Ibn abu Talib.
Hurufiyya– who believed God is incarnated in every atom, reminiscent of the Alevi-Bektashism.
Nuqtavites– who believed in a cyclical view of time, reminiscent of the Isma'ili Shia.
Soldiers of Heaven– who believed that their former leader Dia Abdul Zahra Kadim (died 2007 CE) was the Mahdi and reincarnation of Ali ibn Abi Talib.

Zaydi Shia sects

Dukayniyya– who believed Muhammad’s followers fell into unbelief after his death because they did not uphold the Imamate of Ali.
Jarudiyya– who believed the companions were sinful in failing to recognise Ali as the legitimate Caliph. They became extinct in Iran and Iraq but still survive in Yemen under the Hadawi sub-sect.
Khalafiyya– who believed in a unique line of Imams after Zayd ibn Ali ibn Husayn Ibn 'Ali Ibn abu Talib, starting with a man named Abd al-Samad and continuing with his descendants.
Khashabiyya– who believed that the Imamate must remain only among the descendents of Hasan and Husayn, even if that Imam is ignorant, immoral and tyrannical.
Tabiriyya/Butriyya/Salihiyya– who believed the companions, including Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, had been in error in failing to follow Ali, but it did not amount to sin.

Imami/pre-Twelver Shia sects

Hafizi– who believed the ruler of the Fatimid Empire, Al-Hafiz, was also the Imam of the Time.
Qarmatians– who believed in a world view where every phenomenon repeated itself in cycles, where every incident was replayed over and over again.
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exactly the point these lefties are feigning stupidity to distract us from focusing on.



AAAintheBeltway said:
What do you think the people shouting them at a Catholic Church meant? Two weeks after a priest had his head cut off in his church?
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