MurreyMath

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John and Friends,

I don't have time to engage in the (sometimes) intellectual and analytical discussion like many members of this group. There are two principal reasons for that. Primarily because I have a wife and five small children who (rightfully) demand my time and attention. Secondly, I manage other people's money for a healthy fee and I do so using MM.

We recently completed an audit which will allow us to publicly advertise our portfolio performance, gross of fees and charges:

2000 19%
2001 27%
2002 20% YTD

While these returns won't be sexy enough to impress many of you, I would gladly compare them to the DOW, Nasdaq, S&P, etc. Or, for that matter, any billion dollar publicly traded open ended fund. These numbers have been achieved using mutual fund principles of management, meaning no short selling, no options buying/selling, no margin, and a portfolio containing ONLY Dow 30 stocks.

Let me pose a few questions to those who just can't seem to accept MurreyMath. BTW, I say 'accept' because I long ago gave up trying to 'understand' everything that any genius might teach, which of course would include principles upon which Murrey might teach. I would venture that many of those who have trouble 'understanding' aspects of Murrey Math have no problem 'believing' certain religious principles but cannot 'prove' them.

1. How can a man predict within 1/10 of 1% the closing price of ANY particular security or index 8 hours prior to the closing of that market? Murrey has done this in my presence at numerous Nashville-area watering holes without the use of software or a calculator.

2. How can a man on a golf course explain prior to hitting a golf ball that because of certain principles of science and math he MUST hit a hole in one on the next hole and then proceed to do exactly that on a 203 year par 3 at Opryland/Springhouse? I was there. He randomly grabbed a club, I continued an argument from the previous hole about Fibonnacci, and in a moment of frustration, he explained to me how he was going to teach me this particular lesson. He spoke for 30 seconds, turned around, swung the club, and it landed within three feet of the pin and rolled in. You can imagine the reaction of the other pair in our four-some. I went on to bogey the hole.

3. How can a man accurately identify ahead of time the the standard deviation of a four year old child's scribbling on a folded piece of paper at my home in January of 2000 if he does not know of which he speaks? Ask my wife, who was also present at this experiment in our home in Franklin, TN, with my son Michael.

I could go on and on. For some, seeing the money in the bank would not be enough. For others, touching the money would not be enough. What will it take for you?

Jeff Cassman
MurreyMath Master Trader
President, Cassman Financial Group
Conservative Republican
Father of Five
Traditional Catholic
Impatient Reader of the Yahoo MM Skeptics Group

check out his bio http://www.jeffcassman.com/about.htm

geez ! is he claiming to to trade a billion dollar fund ?? or is it simply a clever use of political speech to insert that possibility in the readers mind ?? talk about a BASIC misunderstanding and being fooled by simple number games. using credentials and almost "miraculous" occurences to support a GURU--- geez ! if any of these supposed miracles happened--- i assure you--- he would not be able to repeat them.

speak of being delusional !


best,

surf
 
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geez ! is he claiming to to trade a billion dollar fund ?? or is it simply a clever use of political speech to insert that possibility in the readers mind ?? talk about a BASIC misunderstanding and being fooled by simple number games. using credentials and almost "miraculous" occurences to support a GURU--- geez ! if any of these supposed miracles happened--- i assure you--- he would not be able to repeat them.

speak of being delusional !


best,

surf

He manages other people's money i.e: his wife and his 5 children's.
 
i hereby pose a public challenge to cassman, murrey, and any other murreymath devotee. we will use MSFT as the test---- please advise before the open at what price MSFT will close at, within 1/10th of 1 percent. i am WAITING.


best,

surf:)
 
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i hereby pose a public challenge to cassman, murrey, and any other murreymath devotee. we will use MSFT as the test---- please advise before the open at what price MSFT will close at, within 1/10th of 1 percent. i am WAITING.


best,

surf:)

That would be to the penny ...
 
he is the one who is claiming 1/10 of 1 percent. ridiculous claims like this need to challenged directly. particullarly when they are coming from a "public servant".

best,

surf:)
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

he is the one who is claiming 1/10 of 1 percent. ridiculous claims like this need to challenged directly. particularly when they are coming from a "public servant".

best,

surf:)

dave, your neogann channel has nailed price movements so many times in the past few years (first CS and now here at ES) that it is scary....

BUT, to others here, i dont think the question is: which is the absolute BEST method.... one ABSOLUTE method does not have to operate to the exclusion of all others.... if MM works for some - GREAT. if gann works for others - GREAT. if someone can just watch the markets and make money - GREAT... why do some folks a need to attack someone else's approach to the market; be it MM, gann or the "stars and planets."

this thread was intended for discourse between MM traders (i admit, i had never even heard of it until this morning). lets not let yet another ET thread go the way of bickering, challenges and eventually personal attacks.

these threads start out interesting... then someone has to prove something is better or someone is wrong. a 1/10th of 1% prediction in any field or area of endeavor is likely to be viewed as "overly optimistic" by most, and i really dont want to wade through 15 pages or challenges, claims, name calling, etc. i dont need someone (not even someone who i respect) to prove something or someone else wrong for me.

so, lets get back on topic.
 
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