Of course it's "sim." Murray's a software vendor, not a money manager. What do you want from him?
Murray Ruggiero New Nasdaq System, Fully Disclosed
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Of course it's "sim." Murray's a software vendor, not a money manager. What do you want from him?
Murray Ruggiero
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My ES system has been released since Nov 2016 and is making real money ever since. This system uses the same core logic as that one. I know it's hard for people to believe that I create systems that work. Look at my Futures Truth record , I have created systems that remain in the top 10 for more than a decade without ever missing the list. My original bond system using intermarket divergence was published in Futures Magazine in April of 1998 and without reoptimization is still making money.
I can sell you a system that will work, but I'll give it away for free. If you have the means, just stay long in an equity index. Sure, they will have their down moves, but over time since their inception they keep going up. By the nature of the universe of global economics, they cannot go down and stay down for long. The real trick is knowing when to get long on the inevitable pullback.
That advice is worth $400,000,000. Please remit a check to "Hi, I'm a dumbass and I must send you my home, wife and pet dog. I love you, you have saved my life because you are a financial God and know all and I am a lowly slug which cannot think for myself."
That advice is worth $400,000,000. Please remit a check to "Hi, I'm a dumbass and I must send you my home, wife and pet dog. I love you, you have saved my life because you are a financial God and know all and I am a lowly slug which cannot think for myself."
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Trade NQ (E-mini Nasdaq) With as Little as a $15k Account Using Murray's Newest Trading System. Only 15 available for $499.00
Designed by world-renowned trading expert, Murray Ruggiero, the new 2017 Nasdaq intermarket system uses similar logic to his ESIntermarket system which has been a money machine since its release in November 2015.
Murray uncovered secret intermarket relationships that can predict the future direction of the Nasdaq! Using these relationships, Murray developed this system to trade Nasdaq Futures. This system uses 2 intermarkets which are not highly correlated the the ones used in ES Intermarket. Murray developed It using the same methodology he used to develop his ES Intermarket system, and Murray expects it to perform just as well. This system has been tested to combine low drawdowns, and very robust behavior using the EMini Nasdaq.
For a limited time only, Murray is offering this low upgrade price to existing customers with our ES Intermarket System! Because of the value of this proprietary research, you will need to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement to recieve the code. In return, this system is fully disclosed.
My NEW E-mini Nasdaq System
The E-mini Nasdaq trading system uses two intermarkets which, when they confirm each other, combine to create a robust and reliable trading system. One of the intermarkets is an index you would not think of unless you understood the Nasdaq Index inside and out. I have found the proper use of this index to be very productive. This system plays an arbitrage game between the Nasdaq Futures and other markets in addition to this secret intermarket. Combing these two intermarket relationships allowed me to develop this powerful and robust system. You will need to sign a NDA to recieve this system
This system has great hypothetical backtested results. Below is a list detailing those results:
Let's look at the annual breakdown for this system. .
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ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS IS THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY PREPARED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. IN ADDITION, HYPOTHETICAL TRADING DOES NOT INVOLVE FINANCIAL RISK, AND NO HYPOTHETICAL TRADING RECORD CAN COMPLETELY ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT OF FINANCIAL RISK IN ACTUAL TRADING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND LOSSES OR TO ADHERE TO A PARTICULAR TRADING PROGRAM IN SPITE OF TRADING LOSSES ARE MATERIAL POINTS WHICH CAN ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER FACTORS RELATED TO THE MARKETS IN GENERAL OR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY SPECIFIC TRADING PROGRAM WHICH CANNOT BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PREPARATION OF HYPOTHETICAL PERFORMANCE RESULTS AND ALL OF WHICH CAN ADVERSELY AFFECT ACTUAL TRADING RESULTS.
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-What period is "in sample", and what period is "out of sample" ?
-Was optimization done across the whole data set, or only based on the in sample period?
-Where are the Monte Carlo/ variance/ noise testing results? ( your max draw down result in based on one price distribution. This is never going to accurately simulate Max draw down)
-Sample size of 147 is tiny. You would be mad to trade a system with a sample size that small.
It's 2017 not the 90's.
Dude, man, this is the issue that people have with it I think.
You released some system that "has been working" for less than a year...
Your original bond system was published in 1998. Big deal, that was almost 20 years ago. The economy 20 years ago was not what it is today. Do you even remember who the president was in 1997? Are you a bot? Geez.
What top-ten list are you in? Why are you so intent on pushing pushing pushing your line of products after so much quiet time?
And here comes the Coup de grâce...Well, I forget what it was. Point made.
We are protective of our lot here, is the point I am trying to make.
This is all becoming very frustrating and will be my last post on this matter.
You are beating around the bush, like debating with Surf, unprofessional and a pure waste of time, I have better things to do than argue this nonsense.
To the point now: this thread is not about ES system. It's not about bond system or your trading track record or integrity or personalities.
This post right hear you made is a smoke screen and has nothing to do with your $499 NQ system post offer.
Getting back to the subject. The; "Trade NQ (E-mini Nasdaq) With as Little as a $15k Account Using Murray's Newest Trading System. Only 15 available for $499.00" is your latest system???
As well as the reasons already explained, it trades ONE thing only, NQ. Can't be used across different equities, fx, indices etc, it is extremely limited in its abilities or reach.
Then this statement: . "This system uses 2 intermarkets which are not highly correlated"
It's like a company that has only 2 customers, if one or both break down you are snookered.
Then this statement: "Combing these two intermarket relationships allowed me to develop this powerful and robust system"
Powerful and robust says who? A Sim test which has mediocre or suspect results at best, even think curve fitting, and the salesman says "buy this theoretical system, we don't guarantee anything but it is so powerful" like telemarketers and door knockers, here today, gone tomorrow, lots of empty spiel like salespeople are good at.
As said, I'm done with this thread, so full of holes you can drive a truck through it.
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Murray Ruggiero
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Sorry you don't understand the concept of intermarket analysis but by definition intermarket systems only work on the market they were develop for because, those intermarkets are predictive. In terms of discussing my other systems , it's like a car company saying their new model is reliable and discussing how 9 out of 10 of the cars they sold in the past 10 years are still on the road. It points to reliability and credibility. It's easy for everyone to trash me when no one uses there real times and I have to.
Murray Ruggiero
Sponsor
My systems are in Futures Truth top ten list and in fact the point things have changed since 1998, proves my point 200% , the system I built same parameters in 1998 , still works today.
That shows robustness, things change it still works.
Again, he's a vendor, not a money manager. And if you want a "robust" guaranteed result, buy T-bills. You take your chances, with Murray's system or any other.