moving from 1 ES contract to 2 contracts

Quote from Baywolf:

I use one es contract and I make $3000-$5000 a week. Using two contracts is essentially doubling your leverage. It makes me nervous, it should make you nervous.

you purportedly make +60pts to +100pts per week, per ES contract... and you're nervous about trading two contracts at a time?
 
Quote from wiesman02:

Here's my question. At what point should I move up to 2 contracts ? When I'm consistantly pulling in 10 points / week ? More ? Less ? Obviously volatility has a lot to do w/ this answer, but I'm just looking for some advice here. not necessarily a set #, ya know ?

Here's my simple rule of thumb:

If you can make $10,000 within any one month timeframe (roughly 22 trading days), then you can trade 2 lots in the second month with the stated objective of making $20,000. Once that goal is met you move up to 3-lots/$30,000 in the third month, etc. However, should you fall short of the monthly goal, then you reduce the trading size by one lot. Therefore, if you were trading 3-lots/$30,000 in the previous month, you will reduce the size to 2-lots/$20,000 and repeat the process.
 
Quote from austinp:

you purportedly make +60pts to +100pts per week, per ES contract... and you're nervous about trading two contracts at a time?

Sounds a bit, hmm, how should I put it?
 
When I read his post I just about fell out my chair. Say what?


Quote from austinp:

you purportedly make +60pts to +100pts per week, per ES contract... and you're nervous about trading two contracts at a time?
 
When I read his post I just about fell out my chair. Say what?





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Quote from austinp:

you purportedly make +60pts to +100pts per week, per ES contract... and you're nervous about trading two contracts at a time?
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I did fall out of my chair.
 
I find the best way to get used to size is to wait until you have a good open, not bad, not excellent. You should be in a comfortable zone and then add one more in. Then move back to one if you go negative on the day. If you still are doing well with 2 contracts at the end of the day you've probably made some decent cash. The next day start with 1 again. Repeat for a week. This will help you a) try to start the days off right if you know you cannot trade more unless you have a good start. b) learn to SCALE DOWN when you start turning negative. Eventually you are going to have a solid 2-4 days in a row, this is when you can start to stay at 2, after you have a bit of a capital buffer from the solid performance.

Lastly I would say if you have a negative day, go back to 1 contract to start the next day. Most people will think opposite but you need to remember to scale down after a down day and this is conservative, but risk management is half the battle. No point in chasing. You will probably do fine moving to 2 contracts but do so with caution and being risk adverse.
 
Quote from schizo:

Here's my simple rule of thumb:

If you can make $10,000 within any one month timeframe (roughly 22 trading days), then you can trade 2 lots in the second month with the stated objective of making $20,000. Once that goal is met you move up to 3-lots/$30,000 in the third month, etc. However, should you fall short of the monthly goal, then you reduce the trading size by one lot. Therefore, if you were trading 3-lots/$30,000 in the previous month, you will reduce the size to 2-lots/$20,000 and repeat the process.

wow, so you're saving average 9 ES points per day with 1 lot ? Wow. In this current environment its possible. But in April, that would have been VERY tough.
 
Quote from wiesman02:

As many of you know, I trade the ES.

I've been trading the ES using only 1 contract.

lately, I've been averaging $200-$500 per week trading 1 contract. ...

At what point should I move up to 2 contracts ? ...
Start with 1 contract and a 100 points ($5) account.

When you made 100 points of net profit ($5k after all fees) pull that profit from your account and continue with 1 contract.

When you made another 100 points of net profit, start trading 2 contracts.

Then with each 100 more points of net profit add another contract.

At $200 / week you'll add one more contract every 25 weeks ... At $500 / week, every 10 weeks (3 months). Enjoy compounding! :)
 
Just set your P/L window to show POINTS instead of DOLLARS. I know you can do this on OEC... don't know about other brokers. Anyway, then you'll see like +2.5 and all you'll care about is points and you won't actually SEE $125 or $250 or whatever depending on how many contracts you use, cuz it won't matter.
 
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