Mousavi wins Iran election with 65 percent of vote

[riskfreetrading]

Quote from gkishot:

Any land might be or might not be controversial. Unless it's on the moon.
It all depends on the political power behind the controversy. How come the Druzes were never offered their state? Simple because they don't have enough political clout. They didn't have the backing of hundred of millions of Druzes around the world. Or how come the Tamils were eventually defeated in Shri Lanka? People around the world could care less about their plight.

By this token Arabs have no right to claim the state in the West Bank because this land is controversial. It's not about whether land is controversial or not. It's about willingness to make compromises in resolving the disputes between nations.

Palestinians homes/land are in current Israel (in addition to current Gaza and Westbank).

Israel is the only state that is built on stolen land, and the majority of its people have no relation with that land except being a zionist who live and/or his ancestors lived in other parts of the world (west europe, russia/etc).

The zionists very well know that it is not their land, and that they are lying. They seem to think that by spinning they will get people to believe in their lies. Since they know it is not their land over time, they might move back where they came from since men always go back to their true lands. Majority of Israelies who came from other lands would realized it overtime and move back.

 

[riskfreetrading]

Quote from gkishot:

Some people are smart enough to see through the verbal chaff. How about department of defense which is a liability on the US taxpayers too. Why not get rid of it as well?

DofD is a huge asset to the USA, because it returns unparallel benefits.

Israel is a huge liability to the USA.

So money that goes to the huge liabitly which is Israel should be redirected the the huge asset (DOD), for instance by allocating the money for a better pay and equipment for the men and women in uniform, for research, etc.

 

[MGB]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

Palestinians homes/land are in current Israel (in addition to current Gaza and Westbank).

Israel is the only state that is built on stolen land, and the majority of its people have no relation with that land except being a zionist who live and/or his ancestors lived in other parts of the world (west europe, russia/etc).

The zionists very well know that it is not their land, and that they are lying. They seem to think that by spinning they will get people to believe in their lies. Since they know it is not their land over time, they might move back where they came from since men always go back to their true lands. Majority of Israelies who came from other lands would realized it overtime and move back.

The United Nations established the State of Israel in 1948. If the Palestinians want a State, go talk to the United Nations. Simple.

 

[pspr]

Quote from MGB:

The United Nations established the State of Israel in 1948. If the Palestinians want a State, go talk to the United Nations. Simple.

Hey, now there's an idea. Oh, but that might not work if there was a legitimate government that would have to take responsibility for firing thousands of missiles at Israel.

 

[gkishot]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

Palestinians homes/land are in current Israel (in addition to current Gaza and Westbank).

Israel is the only state that is built on stolen land, and the majority of its people have no relation with that land except being a zionist who live and/or his ancestors lived in other parts of the world (west europe, russia/etc).

The zionists very well know that it is not their land, and that they are lying. They seem to think that by spinning they will get people to believe in their lies. Since they know it is not their land over time, they might move back where they came from since men always go back to their true lands. Majority of Israelies who came from other lands would realized it overtime and move back.

It's impossible to steal a land. The land belongs to states not nations. What kind of racist statement is that? No nation has special rights on the land over another nation. Only state does. That's why Arabs are so eager to claim their own statehood in Palestine as to legally own this land within some internationally recognized borders. Arabs should get over this tribal mentality that they own the land.

 

[MGB]

Quote from pspr:
Hey, now there's an idea. Oh, but that might not work if there was a legitimate government that would have to take responsibility for firing thousands of missiles at Israel.

Why would you need a legitimate government to fire missles at Israel to establish the State of Palestine? Terrorists already do that today.

The United Nations simply has to declare that such and such land is the State of Palestine side-by-side with the State of Israel (just as they did when they declared the State of Israel).

Here's a very easy solution... Carve up 11% of Jordan and give it to the Palestines. Approximately 87% of the people who live in Jordan are Palestine anyway.

How did I come up with 11%? The State of Israel is 11% of the Middle East land. So, carve up an equal amount of land for Palestine. Heck, if Palestines want more land, go ahead and ask United Nations and Jordan.

But if Palestine really wants the land that Israel is sitting on, then they'll have to go to war to get it. The problem is... They already tried it in 1948 and got their butts kicked.

 

[pspr]

Quote from MGB:

Why would you need a legitimate government to fire missles at Israel to establish the State of Palestine? Terrorists already do that today.

The United Nations simply has to declare that such and such land is the State of Palestine side-by-side with the State of Israel (just as they did when they declared the State of Israel).

Here's a very easy solution... Carve up 11% of Jordan and give it to the Palestines. Approximately 87% of the people who live in Jordan are Palestine anyway.

How did I come up with 11%? The State of Israel is 11% of the Middle East land. So, carve up an equal amount of land for Palestine. Heck, if Palestines want more land, go ahead and ask United Nations and Jordan.

But if Palestine really wants the land that Israel is sitting on, then they'll have to go to war to get it. The problem is... They already tried it in 1948 and got their butts kicked.

The point I was making was that if the Palestinians were give land to create a state then the government of that state would have responsibility for any attacks on Israel from that state. Right now, there is no responsibility from the Palestinians.

Personally I would suggest giving them an island somewhere in the middle of the Pacific. Maybe that one where the U.S. tested nuclear weapons.

 

[gkishot]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

DofD is a huge asset to the USA, because it returns unparallel benefits.

Israel is a huge liability to the USA.

So money that goes to the huge liabitly which is Israel should be redirected the the huge asset (DOD), for instance by allocating the money for a better pay and equipment for the men and women in uniform, for research, etc.

I wonder why US sends money to Abbas? He and his cronies are US liability for sure. Waste of taxpayers money. And that's not even a country.

 

[gkishot]

Quote from pspr:

The point I was making was that if the Palestinians were give land to create a state then the government of that state would have responsibility for any attacks on Israel from that state. Right now, there is no responsibility from the Palestinians.

Personally I would suggest giving them an island somewhere in the middle of the Pacific. Maybe that one where the U.S. tested nuclear weapons.

There is no need for an island. They just need to reclaim their Jordanian citizenship. That's the biggest injustice that was done to them by fellow Arab country.

 

[MGB]

Quote from gkishot:
There is no need for an island. They just need to reclaim their Jordanian citizenship. That's the biggest injustice that was done to them by fellow Arab country.

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